First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List Re: Rear End by <Studderin@aol.com> Re: wheel vintage repo rally II's (was horns) by <hugoba@apcom.com> Re: Owner Show Pages Updated (3-24-2001) by <hugoba@apcom.com> Shoulder Belts by "Andy" <fbird68@ix.netcom.com> Spare Tire Holddown by "Andy" <fbird68@ix.netcom.com> Re: Rear End by "Dan Lawrence" <danl@fdn.com> Exhaust manifold bolt removal by "Steve Manktelow" <twocan@colba.net> Re: Goodguys on Saturday by <SteveBrady1@aol.com> alternator question by "Jacob Kaizerman" <kaizerman@home.com> peicing an engine together by "matt schmid" <schmidmj@hotmail.com> Re: Exhaust manifold bolt removal by "Glenn Uettwiller" <birdman@gdi.net> Shoulder belt's by "Chris Porter" <fxstsb@qwest.net> Re: Hurst Install by "Steve Stinefelt" <stevestinefelt@hawaii.rr.com> Re: Shoulder Belts by "Niklas Ridell" <vcc2.nridell@memo.volvo.se> Re: Hurst Install by "John Wern" <jwern@charter.net> RE: Exhaust manifold bolt removal by "Trimpe, Bob" <TrimpeB@rajones.com> Re: Rear End by "Dan Lawrence" <danl@fdn.com>
(back) Subject: Re: Rear End From: <Studderin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:39:19 EST In a message dated 3/24/2001 3:59:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, birdman@gdi.net writes: << Then I looked at the cover and discover that it had 12 bolts holding = on the > cover. When I had both rear tires off the ground, I could turn one and = the > other doesn't move, both forward and backward. If it is open-ended, = doesn't > the > opposite tire move opposite and with the posi rear end aren't both = tires > move in the same direction? Also, the rear u-joint has big and small = caps, > the bastard type. Oh yeah, it has a muncie 4 speed too. > > What gives? >> Dan It's probably a chevy 12 bolt (from a Camero). The lazy other wheel show that it It's a clutch style posi that is toast!! = (overheated and glazed the clutch disc's) It's happened to me. You Can rebuilt it, with a new posi clutch pack = kit. These tons of aftermarket parts for a chevy 12bolt compared the Pontiac = style 10bolt with the scallops on the sides of the cover (standard firebird) . = I'd keep that rearend, and if you ever need so cash and not the strength of = that rearend you can sell it's worth some money!! John Costello
(back) Subject: Re: wheel vintage repo rally II's (was horns) From: <hugoba@apcom.com> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:36:24 -0800 (PST) Well, I've had a set of the 14x7's on my 67 for a bit over a year now and = I'm very happy with them. Granted that they never see snow and hardly ever see water, but, as you say, to me it was a matter of spending lots of time = prepping some that I had and then painting them or just getting them done. These look very nice although the charcoal part is pretty light as = compared to the 14's. I'm not sure if Summit carries the 15x10's but i do know that Wheel = Vintiques will custom make any width and set back for you. Hugo > From Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com Sat Mar 24 00:18:05 2001 > From: Studderin@aol.com > Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 01:37:13 EST > Subject: wheel vintage repo rally II's (was horns) > To: Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > In a message dated 3/24/2001 2:15:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > hugoba@apcom.com writes: > > << I believe that Bob Cisneros had posted a formula some time back but I = also > think that if you go to the Tire Rack web site they have one there as = well. > > I don't know if you like the look of the Rallye II's but Summit is = starting > to > ship the repros made by Wheel Vintiques (I just got one of the four I = had > ordered a few weeks ago). They were on backoreder forever. >> > > Hugo > What do you think of your wheels (I mean wheel). How's there paint? = Cuz > last weekend while picking up another 455. I notice them on a car the = guy > had, (a 73 grand am) there were starting to rust on the silver spoke = after > only few mouths. The wheels and car were under a foot of snow though. so = much > for that 40' weather 2 weekends ago!!! > I've been thinking that for $95-100 bucks a wheel it cheaper then = the > sanding, masking, spay paint fun. And they come in 15x8 and even 15x10 = ?? > hummmm .... And they don't come with curb dents. > > John Costello > Rochester NY >
(back) Subject: Re: Owner Show Pages Updated (3-24-2001) From: <hugoba@apcom.com> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:38:41 -0800 (PST) Berry nice ;-) Hugo > From Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com Sat Mar 24 04:22:56 2001 > Subject: Owner Show Pages Updated (3-24-2001) > Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:13:58 -0500 > From: Geoff Martin <Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org> > To: "Firebird-L" <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > Subject: Owner Show Pages Updated (3-24-2001) > > Added some more owners today to the First Generation Firebird Owners' > Show Pages: > > Carol Brezette > 1967 Burgundy Firebird 350 Coupe > (http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/closeup.mv?CarID=3D149) > > ------------------- > Enjoy - Geoff > '68 Mayfair Maize Firebird 350 Convertible > (http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/closeup.mv?CarID=3D46) > (Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org) > > More information about adding your car or link to the owner pages: > (http://FirstGenFirebird.org/firebird/owners/info.html) > (Make sure to drop the "(" and ")" when using the URLs) > >
(back) Subject: Shoulder Belts From: "Andy" <fbird68@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:16:28 -0800 I have the shoulder belts for my '68 coupe, but don't use them because they restrict movement so much. I was wondering whether modern after-market lap/shoulder belts, such as those sold by JC Whitney, could be adapted. The take-up reel is too big to fit next to the bucket seats, but what if it were mounted to the roof mounting point? Has anyone tried something like this? Does anyone know if the take up reel locking mechanism works upside down? Andy
(back) Subject: Spare Tire Holddown From: "Andy" <fbird68@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:21:39 -0800 I have a full-size spare in my '68 coupe. Other than a bump centered in the slope of the trunk floor, near the back seat, there is nothing to keep the spare from sliding around. I bought the hold down bracket and rod from CI, but I'd like to know where on the floor the bracket was installed at the factory. So far, I've only seen the bracket for the space-saver spare, but it is mounted way to far to the passenger side to be useable for the full-size tire.
(back) Subject: Re: Rear End From: "Dan Lawrence" <danl@fdn.com> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:14:50 -0500 Thanks Glenn and Tood for your help. Bad news for me. It appears I have an open 3.08. I didn't put the = transmission in gear when I checked it. The opposite tire spun in reverse. I got 10 pinion rotations and 6.5 tire rotations. It was as I suspected, another financial = hill to climb. Actually I don't mind the ratio, it's the lack of traction. I still wouldn't trade my Bird for anything else. Thanks for your patience. Dan 68/coupe/428
(back) Subject: Exhaust manifold bolt removal From: "Steve Manktelow" <twocan@colba.net> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 06:25:24 -0500 I have to remove the passenger side exhaust manifold on my 68 350. I have two bolts that have rounded off heads. Before I attempt to remove them by alternate means, I thought I would check, and see if any of the list members had any tips. I do have acetylene torches, and lots of tools. My mechanical knowledge is pretty extensive, so I am looking for trade type tips, not the basic stuff. Thanks in advance for any help offered, Steve
(back) Subject: Re: Goodguys on Saturday From: <SteveBrady1@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:32:07 EST Well, I went down on Saturday, and spent a good part of the day there. It = was awesome! I saw some of the coolest Pontiacs (and other cars) I have ever = seen there! I saw all of Hugo's cars, but I didn't see him around, let me say, your 98 T/A is cool. I liked seeing the dyno results. Why do you have Corvette valve covers in your car? I saw a lot of first gen Firebirds, I counted at least 8. I'm not sure which ones were owned by list members, = but I liked each and every one I saw. I picked up a N.O.S. Pontiac steering = wheel for $20, I love it! I had a great time, and I can't wait to go again next time, because, I will have my Firebird there! Steve Brady 68 400 Convertible http://members.nbci.com/srb/
(back) Subject: alternator question From: "Jacob Kaizerman" <kaizerman@home.com> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 17:29:32 -0800 Hi guys, The alternator on my '69 bird gave up the ghost this weekend, and I was wondering if it's possible to replace it with a newer one with an internal regulator and maybe higher output (it was the original 55 amp). Anybody have any suggestions on what to replace it with and what sort of wiring modifications I need to do? Thanks, Jacob '69 350 conv.
(back) Subject: peicing an engine together From: "matt schmid" <schmidmj@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:10:11 I just bought my first Firebird. It's a '68 coupe with a 350 and a 4bbl Holley. The problem is that, sad to say, this is my first car with a carbeurator and my first V8, and yes...my very first rebuild project. You gotta start somewhere right? Well, my problem is I bought the car with the = engine partially taken apart. The guy before me took it apart and just = threw everything into the trunk. My plan was to get it back into running = condition and as I get the money upgrade to better/newer components. Well I'm slowly = putting it back together and am having a problem with the carbeurator. I'm = not sure if everything is there and I'm not sure which vacuum lines hook = up to what. I have the chilton's manual for the car and a haynes Holley Carb manual, and have to admit haven't spent a great deal of time trying to figure everything out, but I've spent a decent amount of time. What I'm pretty sure of is that it's a 4160 model with an automatic choke and = single fuel line hook up. I was wondering if anyone has a similar setup if they could email me some pictures so I can go by what it's supposed to look = like, or if anyone has any other suggestions I'm open to them. Thanks. Matt '68 350 coupe _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: Re: Exhaust manifold bolt removal From: "Glenn Uettwiller" <birdman@gdi.net> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:30:14 -0500 Steve, if your a trades type, my suggestions should just be reminders! I am assuming you are talking about the bolts that hold the manifold to the head. If so, the first trick is a smaller (disposable) socket, like a 1/2", or 13 then 12mm metrics. My preferences for this are cheap deep impacts, so you can hammer them onto what's left of the bolt head. If this fails, then use the cutting torch sideways across the head to cut it off, leaving in effect a stud. You may need to lift the engine somewhat to slide the manifold off, but then you can remove the "stud" with either a ViseGrip or by welding a nut onto the stud to wrench it off the cylinder head. Good luck! Glenn aka birdman Steve Manktelow wrote: > > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > I have to remove the passenger side exhaust manifold on my 68 350. I > have two bolts that have rounded off heads. Before I attempt to remove > them by alternate means, I thought I would check, and see if any of the > list members had any tips. I do have acetylene torches, and lots of > tools. My mechanical knowledge is pretty extensive, so I am looking for > trade type tips, not the basic stuff. > > Thanks in advance for any help offered, > Steve
(back) Subject: Shoulder belt's From: "Chris Porter" <fxstsb@qwest.net> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 21:51:32 -0800 The take-up reel is too big to fit next to the bucket seats, but what if it were mounted to the roof mounting point? Has anyone tried something like this? Does anyone know if the take up reel locking mechanism works upside down? Might be wrong, but I thought the shoulder belts on my ( previous ) T/A's ( mid 70's ) retracted into the roof . Somebody else might be able to confirm this. I thought they had the retracting mechanism in each upper corner above the seat. Just a thought for you. Chris `68 350 H.O. Drop-top
(back) Subject: Re: Hurst Install From: "Steve Stinefelt" <stevestinefelt@hawaii.rr.com> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:30:00 -1000 I've been contemplating sending my original Hurst 4-spd shifter to Hurst = to be reworked, but am not sure what needs to be done, where to send it, how much it costs, etc. Can someone let me know how this is done? Thanks in advance! Steve '68 Sprint Coupe Subject: Hurst Install From: "John Wern" <jwern@charter.net> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:28:40 -0500 If everyone will remember I bought a HURST V- Matic II shifter off of ebay - Well it was kinda sticking becuase it was so old. So I sent it in = to Hurst to have it reworked. Well they sent it back, along with a brand new replacement. On the invoice they said it was so old they it couldnt = replace some parts. So they just gave me a new one. Best part -they only charged = me $50.00. Well I finished the install yesterday and it came out very nice. = It is a really good fit if anyone is interested in changing their shifters = and not going to the dual gate. I posted some pics of the final product... http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D1545959&f=3D0 Thanks for all. John.
(back) Subject: Re: Shoulder Belts From: "Niklas Ridell" <vcc2.nridell@memo.volvo.se> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:36:49 +0200 Andy, I have installed after market 3-point roll belts in my coupe. I managed to hide the retractor in the rear seat arm rest. The belt comes up between the side panel and the arm rest so no harm is done to the original parts. The other end of the belt and the belt buckle use the stock mounting positions in the floor. The biggest problem i encountered was the roof mounted "swirl bracket." It use the stock position but I had to fabricate a block of steel which I bolt the bracket to. Kinda hard to describe but I guess I could get you some pictures if you are really interested. The function of the setup is perfect but I'm not to happy with the belt geometry. Seems like the roof mount is to far back or to high up. The belt rubs my neck slightly. Do you have this problem with the standard shoulder belts? /Niklas ------------------------------ fbird68@ix.netcom.com wrote: > I have the shoulder belts for my '68 coupe, but don't use them because > they restrict movement so much. I was wondering whether modern > after-market lap/shoulder belts, such as those sold by JC Whitney, could > be adapted. The take-up reel is too big to fit next to the bucket seats, > but what if it were mounted to the roof mounting point? Has anyone tried > something like this? Does anyone know if the take up reel locking > mechanism works upside down? > > Andy >
(back) Subject: Re: Hurst Install From: "John Wern" <jwern@charter.net> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:00:28 -0500 Steve - www.mrgasket.com - go to HURST - then FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS. it explains it all there. After sending mine in I called to let them know it was on the way. they said that it would be one week in their shop. = They looked at it and sent it back within two days of arriving there. I sent = it UPS and tracked it. John. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Stinefelt <stevestinefelt@hawaii.rr.com> To: Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Date: Monday, March 26, 2001 3:05 AM Subject: Re: Hurst Install >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >......................................................................... >I've been contemplating sending my original Hurst 4-spd shifter to Hurst = to >be reworked, but am not sure what needs to be done, where to send it, how >much it costs, etc. Can someone let me know how this is done? Thanks in >advance! > >Steve >'68 Sprint Coupe > > >Subject: Hurst Install >From: "John Wern" <jwern@charter.net> >Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:28:40 -0500 > >If everyone will remember I bought a HURST V- Matic II shifter off of >ebay - Well it was kinda sticking becuase it was so old. So I sent it in = to >Hurst to have it reworked. Well they sent it back, along with a brand new >replacement. On the invoice they said it was so old they it couldnt = replace >some parts. So they just gave me a new one. Best part -they only charged me >$50.00. Well I finished the install yesterday and it came out very nice. It >is a really good fit if anyone is interested in changing their shifters = and >not going to the dual gate. I posted some pics of the final product... >http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D1545959&f=3D0 > >Thanks for all. John.
(back) Subject: RE: Exhaust manifold bolt removal From: "Trimpe, Bob" <TrimpeB@rajones.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:08:58 -0500 Steve, I had three stuck bolts. First I soaked them with liquid wrench. I took a Dremel tool and trimmed the bolt head to fit the next size smaller socket (it was a metric). I took a cheap socket and hammered it on. They came off with out too much complaint. Bob Trimpe Subject: Exhaust manifold bolt removal
(back) Subject: Re: Rear End From: "Dan Lawrence" <danl@fdn.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:35:53 -0500 John, I wondered if that could be true because I sanded off the paint in both = the locations that should show the stamped ID marking and I couldn't find = anything. If it is a chevy rear end, do you know where the ID marking would be? Or = would it be my best bet to take the cover off. IF I took the cover off, what should I = look for to ID it if it is a chevy. Dan 68/coupe/428 Studderin@aol.com wrote: > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > In a message dated 3/24/2001 3:59:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > birdman@gdi.net writes: > > << Then I looked at the cover and discover that it had 12 bolts = holding on > the > > cover. When I had both rear tires off the ground, I could turn one = and the > > other doesn't move, both forward and backward. If it is open-ended, = doesn't > > the > > opposite tire move opposite and with the posi rear end aren't both = tires > > move in the same direction? Also, the rear u-joint has big and small = caps, > > the bastard type. Oh yeah, it has a muncie 4 speed too. > > > > What gives? >> > > Dan > It's probably a chevy 12 bolt (from a Camero). > The lazy other wheel show that it It's a clutch style posi that is = toast!! > (overheated and glazed the clutch disc's) > It's happened to me. You Can rebuilt it, with a new posi clutch pack = kit. > These tons of aftermarket parts for a chevy 12bolt compared the Pontiac = style > 10bolt with the scallops on the sides of the cover (standard firebird) . = I'd > keep that rearend, and if you ever need so cash and not the strength of = that > rearend you can sell it's worth some money!! > John Costello > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------