First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List Re: Subject: Re: More Carb Questions by "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Re: Magazines by "Doug" <dcharnley@mediaone.net> Re: Air in brake lines. by "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> RE: Floorpan replacement - new question by "Gerard Green" <gerryg@icpdd.neca.nec.com.au> Go vote for my First Generation Firebird by "Eddie Pettit" <eddie@thepettitfamily.org> Re: The best head by <Birdm58293@aol.com> Re: Go vote for my First Generation Firebird by "Eddie Pettit" <eddie@thepettitfamily.org> Re: Redlines vs. RWL tires- opinions please? by <hugoba@apcom.com> Re: Redlines vs. RWL tires- opinions please? by "Eddie Pettit" <eddie@thepettitfamily.org> Re: Blower by "saltydog" <saltyd@home.com> Re: Need front end HELP by <JGeigel@aol.com> Re: Floorpan replacement - new question by <JGeigel@aol.com> Re: Magazines by "R & P" <Ronsoy@bellsouth.net> Re: Intro and link to parts. by "Wayne Crist" <crist@flash.net> Re: Redlines vs. RWL tires- opinions please? by "Charles Hazelton" <chuckhazelton@surfree.com> Re: Magazines by "Wayne Crist" <crist@flash.net> Hey guys I have Question(again) by "R & P" <Ronsoy@bellsouth.net> 68 front license plate bracket by "Charles Hazelton" <chuckhazelton@surfree.com> Re: Redlines vs. RWL tires- opinions please? by "Charlie & Rose Huntington" <badgoat@gwi.net> Muncie shifter by "Gary Patrick" <Gary@tcworks.net>
(back) Subject: Re: Subject: Re: More Carb Questions From: "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:10:17 -0800 My car with the Pontiac performer uses the adapter plate as well. Power is 12V when the key is on. Mine was on a gheto splitter from the = main ignition wire. Electric choke are usualy trouble free, and your = Girlfriend won't forget and leave it on/off. Manual choke does have the advantage of 100% reliability for the first decade or two. $.02 Rowan >From: "John Wern" <jwern@charter.net> >If you put the 1406 on the Pontiac intake you need a plate that I just >happen to have. It cost me $22.00 I'll let you have it for $5.00.In = other >words pay for shipping. It's from Mr Gasket part #1932 (I think) But it = >is >the correct one. Let me know. John. As far as the electric choke. = Dont >buy the 1406 buy the 1405 it has manual choke and you can buy the choke >cable (if you want) and you can run the cable from it through the fire >wall. >I dont even have mine hooked up. Just my .02cents worth. John. >-----Original Message----- >From: shutup@pacbell.net <shutup@pacbell.net> >To: First Generation Firebird-L <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> >Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 1:34 PM >Subject: Subject: Re: More Carb Questions > > > >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = >......................................................................... > >Some more question about this Edelbrock carb #1406. > >1)I've got the 350- 2bbl automatic in the car now , yet have a = factory > >4bbl intake from the right year that I picked up. How would it mate up > >with this edelbrock carb. > >2)The electric choke ,what did you wire it too? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: Re: Magazines From: "Doug" <dcharnley@mediaone.net> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:12:28 -0500 I found that Pontiac Enthusist has more articles on new Pontiacs then the older ones whereas High Performance Pontiac is just the opposite. I = usually leaf through the PE at the newstand and rarely buy it but I subscribe to = HPP. Doug Keith Donmoyer wrote: > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > I have just subscribed to High Performanc Pontiac. I wanted to check = out > this magazine compared to Pontiac Enthusiast(subscribed to before). I = will > then decide which one I want to keep. Also, of course subscribe to > Hemmings..........a must for any resto. > > Keith > 68 H.O. > > Subject: Magazines > From: "Dean Larson" <DLarson@IDENTIFIX.com> > Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:26:30 -0600 > > All, > Wondering what car magazines everyone subscribes to. > Tks, > ~Dean Larson > '69 Sport Coupe >
(back) Subject: Re: Air in brake lines. From: "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:22:49 -0800 Glenn, Jacob (the owner of the Sprite)reminds me the master cylender is Mazda = 626. We had to slightly adjust the bolt holes wit the roundfile, and shorten = the pedal pushrod a tad (MUST be sure there is no tensionwith the pedal released). This was done after replacing &or rebuilding 3 stock masters = in 6 months, and has been maintainence free ever since. I'd guess the part came off a late 80's model(just be sure you don't get = one set for 4 wheel disc). Wasn't the v8 optional in europe? For exhaust on = the 5.0 Sprite, the manifolds are installed on the wrong side to give = front dump. Sounds like a Sweet ride. Rowan *68 >From: jupoa@cyberpass.net >Rowan > Thanks for the in-depth response to my MGB brake problem. Yeah, one = >of the >wheel cylinders weeped a little, so I replaced the seals and bleed it >again. No >help. > About 10 years ago I rebuilt the calipers and wheel cylinders but = not >the >master cylinder. I like your idea of a substitute rather than an OEM >replacement or rebuild. It already has an Oldsmobile engine and a Camero >transmission, why not Toyota brakes? > Your brothers Triumph conversion is remarkable. That he could >engineer it >and build it so quickly is incredible. > My conversion is more conventional. A small 63 Olds aluminum block >V8, a 86 >Camero 5 speed and an MGC rear. A lot of MGB/Triumph conversions were = very >similar. The hardest part was keeping it cool. No room for a large >radiator, >so I built headers from scratch to position the collectors in the wheel >well >just behind the shocks. That plus some insulation on the portion of the >headers >under the hood more than did the trick. > If you get a chance, ask your brother what kind of master cylinder = he >used. > Thanks again > Glenn _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: RE: Floorpan replacement - new question From: "Gerard Green" <gerryg@icpdd.neca.nec.com.au> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:45:27 +1100 Roy, As I recall your replacement floors were of the 'turned up' variety. Did you remove all of the metal from the 'turned down' part of the old floor ?? Does it matter either way ?? thanks Gerry Green > -----Original Message----- > From: Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com > [mailto:Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com]On Behalf Of ROY D LUMSDEN > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 4:24 AM > To: First Generation Firebird-L > Subject: Re: Floorpan replacement > > > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > John, > > Do a search in the archives. I've discussed the replacement of > floorpans in > detail. For my clarification, you mentioned, "The original pans fit in > between these braces and rocker panel. I was thinking about > notching the new > pans to fit around the braces and weld them up. ". Did you buy > the pans that > turn down and are intended to be welded along the rocker pinch weld or = the > pan that turns up along the rocker and is meant to be welded on the top > inside the car? Also, you mentions a floor pan brace, are you doing a > convertible? > > Fill me in on some of the details and I'll try to help you along. > > Roy >
(back) Subject: Go vote for my First Generation Firebird From: "Eddie Pettit" <eddie@thepettitfamily.org> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:16:52 -0500 It's up for car of the month at Firebirdmania. http://accesswave.ca/~bjw/vote.htm Obviously, it's the bottom one. Thanks!
(back) Subject: Re: The best head From: <Birdm58293@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:28:13 EST All this talk about heads, are # 62 heads good?
(back) Subject: Re: Go vote for my First Generation Firebird From: "Eddie Pettit" <eddie@thepettitfamily.org> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:46:46 -0500 It's over! I must have won! Nevermind. Thanks. There is another nice old Firebird that you can vote for though! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie Pettit" <eddie@thepettitfamily.org> > It's up for car of the month at Firebirdmania. > > http://accesswave.ca/~bjw/vote.htm
(back) Subject: Re: Redlines vs. RWL tires- opinions please? From: <hugoba@apcom.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:01:04 -0800 (PST) It depends on what rour goal is. If you are trying to go for the 100 point original look then you go for = number 4. If you want the fat cool look then go for the number 1. If it was me I'd get the #4 setup and only put them on the car when I went = to hard core shows where "correctness" is the goal and use the Rally II's for = cruising and every day use. Hugo > From Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com Wed Feb 28 19:51:07 2001 > X-Sender: bird@mail.javanet.com > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:58:10 -0500 > To: "First Generation Firebird-L" <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> > From: bird <bird@javanet.com> > Subject: Redlines vs. RWL tires- opinions please? > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > Okay, gang, I am soliciting opinions. Redlines or raised white letter = tires > for my 1967? > > The car is mariner turquoise, turquoise custom interior, black = convertible > top. Right now, the car has 14x6 ralley II wheels on it with nice trim > rings and Eagle GTII raised white letter radials. To see how it looks, > you're welcome to go to www.photopoint.com and put in my email address, > bird@javanet.com, and look in the 67 firebird folder. I like the way = they > look a lot. > > The car came originally from the factory with steel wheels, redlines, = and > PMD hubcaps. I still have the steel wheels, and I have a set of orginal = > '67 wire disc wheels with PMD centers. And, I have the option of = acquiring > a set of correct Firestone bias ply E70-14 redline tires. I'venever > actually seen what that combination looks like on the car, and it's in > storage for probably another month anyway. So what should I do? > > Obviously the radials will ride much better, but take that out of the > picture. Let's talk aesthetics only. Which combination(s) would be = best, > and why? I'm trying to minimize the amount of wheel/tire swapping since = > I'll have to pay to have it done... Thanks for the input! > > 1. RWL with Rally IIs (ie. "as is") > 2. RWL with wire PMD discs > 3 Redlines with Rally II's > 4. Redlines with wire PMD discs (closest to original)
(back) Subject: Re: Redlines vs. RWL tires- opinions please? From: "Eddie Pettit" <eddie@thepettitfamily.org> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:58:47 -0500 RWL ----- Original Message ----- From: "bird" <bird@javanet.com> To: "First Generation Firebird-L" <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 8:58 PM Subject: Redlines vs. RWL tires- opinions please? > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > Okay, gang, I am soliciting opinions. Redlines or raised white letter tires > for my 1967?
(back) Subject: Re: Blower From: "saltydog" <saltyd@home.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:17:55 -0600 It is my understanding that to run a blower you should run a good crank = and there just aren't any. All the ones available to us are cast, and you need = a good forged steel one. After getting this news I started to think about a turbo setup (free HP). > Any one have all or part of a blower set up for a Pontiac. I want to = take my > 67 bird flying. Thanks
(back) Subject: Re: Need front end HELP From: <JGeigel@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:23:07 EST Chris, I have a front valence with very minor stuff wrong with it. $40. Joe
(back) Subject: Re: Floorpan replacement - new question From: <JGeigel@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:30:44 EST For anyone about to start a floor pan project, I saw an entirely new set = of floor pans that was just released, I think from CARS. It went from under = the rear seats all the way up the firewall and also went all the way up the tunnel. The floor pans were in two halves so you could virtually replace = the entire floor panel including the tunnel. I wish these were available when = I did mine. Much easier and a better final product. Joe Geigel
(back) Subject: Re: Magazines From: "R & P" <Ronsoy@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:43:16 -0500 Man just bought the new mid month mag "Pontiac engine guide" Damn this is good....great info excellent photos. RonMan
(back) Subject: Re: Intro and link to parts. From: "Wayne Crist" <crist@flash.net> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:41:03 -0600 I have seen these clips up close and have bought parts from these guys before. I got good treatment and recommend them. The clips have a little rust down on the fenders' lower door side corners the bumpers are solid and not bent, the grills are in not busted up. The 400 hood has hood pin holes and a poor patch where it had a factory tach. The clips include the inner fender wells. They have lots parts that got striped off the bodies before the shells were sent to the crusher. oh yea the parts are in San Antonio TX Wayne TX 69 Firebird 78 TA
(back) Subject: Re: Redlines vs. RWL tires- opinions please? From: "Charles Hazelton" <chuckhazelton@surfree.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:48:44 -0800 That's a fine looking bird, Daniel. IMHO option 3 is best. Since you are = not going back to the absolute original configuration (steel wheels w/PMD hubcaps) the redlines on Rally IIs will look fabulous. But you'll give up = a major amount of road handling. Chuck Hazelton 68 350 conv (off to get the new top & exhaust system put on) ----- Original Message ----- From: "bird" <bird@javanet.com> To: "First Generation Firebird-L" <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 5:58 PM Subject: Redlines vs. RWL tires- opinions please? > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > Okay, gang, I am soliciting opinions. Redlines or raised white letter tires > for my 1967? > 1. RWL with Rally IIs (ie. "as is") > 2. RWL with wire PMD discs > 3 Redlines with Rally II's > 4. Redlines with wire PMD discs (closest to original)
(back) Subject: Re: Magazines From: "Wayne Crist" <crist@flash.net> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:56:43 -0600 High Performance Pontiac Car Craft smoke signals Pontiac Enthusiast Hot Rod Wayne TX 69 Bird 78 TA
(back) Subject: Hey guys I have Question(again) From: "R & P" <Ronsoy@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 00:17:05 -0500 There is an auction on bay for a set of OEM valve covers, I really need = them but don't know if they are right. If they are for a 68 350 please let me know my motor is so butchered I'm = not sure what goes where.....My motor has the PCV valve in the valley pan and = it looks like there is a grommet there for one. Please help I need 'em. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D5652109= 54& r=3D0&t=3D0 RonMan
(back) Subject: 68 front license plate bracket From: "Charles Hazelton" <chuckhazelton@surfree.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:41:36 -0800 Anyone have one of those just lying around you'd like to sell. Dirty, slightly mangled etc., is ok. Aliens got mine, I think. Thanks, Chuck. chuckhazelton@surfree.com
(back) Subject: Re: Redlines vs. RWL tires- opinions please? From: "Charlie & Rose Huntington" <badgoat@gwi.net> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 05:42:58 -0500 Mount the redlines on the steel wheels - run them with the wire PMD's Keep the Eagles on the Rally II's Swap them as the mood hits! Check out www.badgoat.net -----Original Message----- From: bird <bird@javanet.com> To: First Generation Firebird-L <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 10:47 PM Subject: Redlines vs. RWL tires- opinions please? First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List .......................................................................... Okay, gang, I am soliciting opinions. Redlines or raised white letter = tires for my 1967? The car is mariner turquoise, turquoise custom interior, black convertible top. Right now, the car has 14x6 ralley II wheels on it with nice trim rings and Eagle GTII raised white letter radials. To see how it looks, you're welcome to go to www.photopoint.com and put in my email address, bird@javanet.com, and look in the 67 firebird folder. I like the way they look a lot. The car came originally from the factory with steel wheels, redlines, and PMD hubcaps. I still have the steel wheels, and I have a set of orginal '67 wire disc wheels with PMD centers. And, I have the option of = acquiring a set of correct Firestone bias ply E70-14 redline tires. I'venever actually seen what that combination looks like on the car, and it's in storage for probably another month anyway. So what should I do? Obviously the radials will ride much better, but take that out of the picture. Let's talk aesthetics only. Which combination(s) would be best, and why? I'm trying to minimize the amount of wheel/tire swapping since I'll have to pay to have it done... Thanks for the input! 1. RWL with Rally IIs (ie. "as is") 2. RWL with wire PMD discs 3 Redlines with Rally II's 4. Redlines with wire PMD discs (closest to original)
(back) Subject: Muncie shifter From: "Gary Patrick" <Gary@tcworks.net> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 05:59:35 -0500 Todd says>>> Subject: Shifter ? From: "Todd Chynoweth" <pinec@pitnet.net> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 1980 17:34:20 -0600 I was hoping some one could advise me on this, I just bought A Muncie shifter from Ebay, I have a Muncie 4 speed That = will be replacing the original 3 speed manual, The three speed shifter was mounted to the crossmember as will the Muncie shifter, I also will be putting a console in the car, Is the Muncie shifter good or bad? Worse than "BAD". Todd, unless you are doing a 100point resto I wouldnt use the Muncie shifter. At best it was a very poor shifter and is guaranteed to hang up between 2nd&3rd. The mounting to the crossmember was a poor plan and the shifter has too much slop in it,even when new. One test drive on a 68 that had the factory Hurst and you will be = convinced. Does the term boat anchor mean anything? No wait it to light for that. I would sell it to some unsuspecting purist and get a 68-9 one for same = body style. Now the other problem. If you are going to use the factory 67 console, the factory Hurst shifter will hit the slider plate. With alittle adjusting ,moving the shifter handle backwards while in nuetral position, it will work. Good luck Gary