First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List RE: cam outcome? by "Trimpe, Bob" <TrimpeB@rajones.com> Re: Valve Question by "Frank Zeller" <fzeller@tri-austin.com> New Addition by "Keith Donmoyer" <kadonny@hotmail.com> RE: New addition by "bird@mail.javanet.com" <bird@mail.javanet.com> RE: cam outcome? by "Frank Zeller" <fzeller@tri-austin.com> Johnny Lighning 67 birds... by "Brett Luikkonen" <brett@cisdirect.com> RE: New addition by "Trimpe, Bob" <TrimpeB@rajones.com> Re: Emblems;Re-enamel by "ROY D LUMSDEN" <rlumsden@tampabay.rr.com> 68 conv driver's door by "Bryan & Mone' Young" <bryandmo@home.com> Johnny Lightning 67 by "lws" <lws@nextek.net> Re: AC or not to AC by "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> Re: New addition by "Jeff Lane" <JeffLane32@hotmail.com> Wheel clearance by "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> Fwd: Pontiac parts for sale by <David_S_Smith@amat.com> Re: From 30 I can melt rubber.. by "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> RE: cam outcome? by "Just Rod" <pjozif@hotmail.com> Rick's First Generation website and address by <kmorrow@socket.net> question by "matt schmid" <schmidmj@hotmail.com> RE: New addition by "Rodger Fromm" <rwfromm@nf.sympatico.ca> Re: Wheel clearance by "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com>
(back) Subject: RE: cam outcome? From: "Trimpe, Bob" <TrimpeB@rajones.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:23:50 -0500 Rod, I am in the process now of putting that cam into my car. I hope to be running in about 3 weeks. Bob Trimpe -----Original Message----- From: Just Rod [mailto:pjozif@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:55 AM To: Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com Subject: cam outcome? First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List .......................................................................... has anyone here with a stock 350 swapped to a cam with 204/214@.050. how = did it work out? Rod
(back) Subject: Re: Valve Question From: "Frank Zeller" <fzeller@tri-austin.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:39:12 -0600 Intake is 5.09 and exhaust is 5.08 both have 11/32 shafts. 2.11 Intake: #F5143 1.77 exhaust: #F5144 You can order the Ferrea valve directly from Horatio Ferrea's place of = business. Ferrea Racing Components, 2600 NW 55th Court, Suite 238, Ft. = Lauderdale, FL 33309.PH: Tech line (954) 733-2505, toll free order = line(888) 733-2505 or FAX (954) 735-2179. There about 8 dollars each these are the single grove swirl polished OR SI Valves in California 1-800-564-8258 6002 SG Intake 6003 SG Exhaust 10 dollars each these are the single grove swirl polished Service replacement valves with both the groves up top SEV2638 Intake SEV2639 Exhaust 9.00 dollars each Frank >>> Birdm58293@aol.com 02/12/01 09:12PM >>> First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List .......................................................................... I'm trying to find out what the length of the valve are for my heads. # 62 DATE H138/H298 (AUG 13/29 1968) VALVE SIZE 2.11/1.77 CC 72-75 SCREW IN STUDS Thanks for any help. TOM
(back) Subject: New Addition From: "Keith Donmoyer" <kadonny@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:03:08 -0500 Duane, Congrats! Kids are alot of fun........also alot of work. Oh well, it is worth it. By the way, really cool name "Cinnamon Hope". Sounds great. Maybe nickname should be "Cinny Minny". Keith 68 H.O. Subject: New addition From: "Duane Benedict" <teachers@epix.net> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:01:34 -0500 Hello everyone. I wanted to let you know about the new addition to our family. I apologize for taking a while to get this to you. It looks like I may have sent this only to Geoff when I meant to send it to the list as well. Anyway, the newest Firebird fan in our home is Make & Model: Cinnamon Hope Benedict. Release date: Feb. 4, 2001 Specs & features: 9 pounds, 2 oz., 21.75" long. Mom and baby are both doing well and dad is looking for the best way to fit an infant seat in the back of his '69. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: RE: New addition From: "bird@mail.javanet.com" <bird@mail.javanet.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:16:50 -0500 < Besides, having a little girl is the best excuse to get a 1st Gen drop top.> Duane, you said a mouthful there. From first hand experience I can tell = you that there's nothing like heading out for ice cream with the top down = on a hot summer night with your little girl in your first gen convertible. = The look of joy on her face will make your many wrenching hours worth it. Another moment you have to look forward to is picking her up in front of = school with the top down. She'll love you forever! Just don't give in to = temptation and allow her and her date to take the 'bird to the prom. Ugh. = Best wishes and good memories, Dan Kagan bird@javanet.com 1967 Firebird convertible 1992 Firebird convertible -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at http://www.mail2web.com/ .
(back) Subject: RE: cam outcome? From: "Frank Zeller" <fzeller@tri-austin.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:18:39 -0600 Bob, Search the Classical Pontiac web sight. There is some discussion on the = after market cams having a smaller base circle diameter. You just need to = convert to a adjustable valve train. >>> TrimpeB@rajones.com 02/13/01 07:23AM >>> First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List .......................................................................... Rod, I am in the process now of putting that cam into my car. I hope to be running in about 3 weeks. Bob Trimpe -----Original Message----- From: Just Rod [mailto:pjozif@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:55 AM To: Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com Subject: cam outcome?
(back) Subject: Johnny Lighning 67 birds... From: "Brett Luikkonen" <brett@cisdirect.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 06:46:33 -0600 I'm going to find some up here in the North West for Steve Manktelow up in The Great White North, I'll just buy all I can find and I'll let you know also... Provided I can find enough... I found both in the series the white and the gold. I should have bought more I guess! Brett in Seattle! ________________________________________________________________ Ok guys, I have gone to 3 Targets, 3 Wallymarts and 2 Kfarts and I have not found = any trace of these. If anyone out there can pick up a pair of them I would be happy to pay for them plus shipping. Thanks Hugo
(back) Subject: RE: New addition From: "Trimpe, Bob" <TrimpeB@rajones.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:38:26 -0500 Duane, Congratulations. You are in for a great time. Wait until the first time = she asks for the 'bird keys. My kids are grown and gone -- sometimes I miss the chaos. (My son is also good at lifting heavy things...) Regards, Bob Trimpe -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Pettit [mailto:eddie@thepettitfamily.org] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 7:55 PM To: First Generation Firebird-L Subject: Re: New addition First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List .......................................................................... Congrats. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duane Benedict" <teachers@epix.net> > Anyway, the newest Firebird fan in our home is > Make & Model: Cinnamon Hope Benedict. > Release date: Feb. 4, 2001 > Specs & features: 9 pounds, 2 oz., 21.75" long. > > Mom and baby are both doing well and dad is looking for the best way to > fit an infant seat in the back of his '69.
(back) Subject: Re: Emblems;Re-enamel From: "ROY D LUMSDEN" <rlumsden@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:36:01 -0500 Niklas, Yes, you are correct. I forgot to mention that I soak the whole emblem in thinner and scrub it real good (especially in the corners) after I polish the chrome but before painting. This removes all wax and grease. Good = call. Roy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Niklas Ridell" <vcc2.nridell@memo.volvo.se> To: "Firebird-L" <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:36 AM Subject: Re: Emblems;Re-enamel > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > Roy, > are you sure about the crome polish? > I'm afraid it would leave a thin coat of grease on the surface > givin the paint problems to stick. > I think I would use a degreaser after the cleaning and polishing > to make the paint job last. > > > /Niklas > > > > > > rlumsden@tampabay.rr.com wrote: > > > I've done this to several emblems. I use spray can enamel. It's = already > > thinned and flows really good, dries fast and, comes in any color you want. > > Before painting, I recommend you use a good chrome polish and Q-tips = to > > clean and polish the emblem. My procedure for painting is simple: > > > > -With the color of your choice, spray it into the paint's cap until it > > puddles. > > -With a small straw (I use the one that came with my WD-40), draw the paint > > into the straw and cap it with you finger (be careful, the paint = doesn't > > taste very good). > > -Place the end over the area to be repainted and let a drop of paint fall > > into the groove. Repeat until you covered all the areas. > > -Use a second and third coat (at least 30 minutes apart) to add depth = to the > > color. > > -Wrap a clean lint free cotton cloth (like and old bed sheet) around a stiff > > putty knife and dip in thinner. Not too much, just to dampen the cloth = .. > > -Wipe the sloppy spills off the top of the emblem. > > > > Easy! The hardest part is the polishing. You can use a small = hypodermic in > > place of the straw if one is convenient. > > > > Good Luck, > > Roy > > > > >
(back) Subject: 68 conv driver's door From: "Bryan & Mone' Young" <bryandmo@home.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:40:47 -0800 Had a bad weekend. my driver's door was struck and is dented very badly. I am in need of a replacement door as I don't think this one will ever look the same. Anyone parting a 68 conv that has a driver's door? If so let me know a price and if close enough to southern california, I'll drive to you and pick it up. Just thought I would try the list first before I try a catalog and pay outragous prices. Thanks. Bryan 68 red conv
(back) Subject: Johnny Lightning 67 From: "lws" <lws@nextek.net> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:35:38 -0500 I have 2 of the gold ones,I will trade one for a white one which I haven't found.If no trades become available,I can sell to list member at my cost from Ohio.Thanks,Larry ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/
(back) Subject: Re: AC or not to AC From: "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:02:45 -0500 I havent forgotten about the a/c article. I know I have it. (unless it ended up in the back seat of my truck) I pulled all of the old mags last night went through them but I need a double take on this one. I did find lots of great articles I had for gotten about. John... -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Pettit <eddie@thepettitfamily.org> To: First Generation Firebird-L <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Date: Sunday, February 11, 2001 8:52 PM Subject: Re: AC or not to AC >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >......................................................................... >That would be great, John. I'm certain many people, such as myself, = would >also be interested in that article. Thanks. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> >To: "First Generation Firebird-L" <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> >Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 6:25 PM >Subject: Re: AC or not to AC > > >> First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >> = ......................................................................... >> Teresa - there was a great article in CarCraft way back on this subject = - >> I'll find it later and post it on the web. John >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Teresa Longworth <ccscnl@shasta.com> >> To: Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> >> Date: Sunday, February 11, 2001 5:02 PM >> Subject: AC or not to AC >> >......................................................................... >> >OK, I know I have lots to do before even getting to this point - but >> >with the snow and all I have a lot of day dreaming time. My 68 did = not >> >come with AC and now that I live where it hits 110 easy in the summer, >> >welllllll. How hard is it to add non stock AC and I won't even ask >> >about the money, HA HA Thanks for your thoughts
(back) Subject: Re: New addition From: "Jeff Lane" <JeffLane32@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:10:44 -0500 I have a 5 month old boy who loves to sit (in his car seat) in my 69 conv. in the garage while I'm working on it. I may wait till he's a little older to actually take him for a drive - but I can't wait. My Dad had a 68 same color and I can still remember that car and the big shiney bumper. I scorn him all the time for selling it! Off the subject any Mainers see this in UncleHenrys classified: 1969 Pontiac Firebird Coupe 400ci auto. needs restoration this is a = complete car that s been in my possession for 20 yrs. 1969 Firebird convt. needs complete restoration buy both $6,000. -Contact Information- Rockland, ME Wish I had some more money! ----- Original Message ----- From: <bird@mail.javanet.com> To: <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:16 AM Subject: RE: New addition > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > > > < Besides, having a little girl is the best excuse to get a 1st Gen drop > top.> > > Duane, you said a mouthful there. From first hand experience I can tell you that there's nothing like heading out for ice cream with the top down = on a hot summer night with your little girl in your first gen convertible. = The look of joy on her face will make your many wrenching hours worth it. > > Another moment you have to look forward to is picking her up in front of school with the top down. She'll love you forever! Just don't give in to temptation and allow her and her date to take the 'bird to the prom. Ugh. > > Best wishes and good memories, > > Dan Kagan > bird@javanet.com > 1967 Firebird convertible > 1992 Firebird convertible > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mail2Web - Check your email from the web at > http://www.mail2web.com/ . > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
(back) Subject: Wheel clearance From: "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:48:10 -0500 As everyone on the list may or may not know, within the last year I disassembled my entire front end and reassembled it with disk breakes. I have 15x 7 ralley II's w235-70-R15's. I love the look. Only the = passenger side rubs. When in a sharp turn. Well, with further examination I find that I can put three fingers (side by side) between the back of the = driver side tire and the wheel the wheel well. AND I can only put two fingers at the same placement on the passenger side. What gives? Did I assemble it wrong on one side? The car drives straight as an arrow. Even when I put = my foot on the brakes hard. Anyone can lead me in the right way on this? JOhn.
(back) Subject: Fwd: Pontiac parts for sale From: <David_S_Smith@amat.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:35:36 -0600 Guys, Anyone looking for pontiac performance parts? This was forwarded to me = from the Houston area. The seller's email is BuickGN80@aol.com (Allen Kientz) The message was originally sent by 67bird@symet.net (Lee Atkinson) Dave >Melissa & Bob, > >Excuse me for hijacking the TACH e-mail list,but it is for a good cause. = A >friend of mine, Allen Kientz, has been collecting parts over the last = half >year for what was to be a 10-second Pontiac powered bracket car. Allen = had >recently overcome Hodgkin's lymphoma, cancer. Sadly, the cancer has = returned >and Allen is going to be hospitalized for some time. His outlook is not = too >good, and he does not want to leave his family with a bunch of car parts = that >they would not know the value of - so he has asked me to help find = buyers. > >Please send the list to any other people you may know that might be = interested >in any of these parts. Allen lives in Sugarland, TX, and his e-mail is >BuickGN80@aol.com > >thanks, >Lee Atkinson > The wheels are 15x8 w/4" back spacing w/28x9 et drags, fronts are 15x3.5 = w/1.5 back spacing w/moroso ds-2 runners.I will take $750 for the complete set. = The slicks have only 5 passes on them.*** I also have a 350 std bore short block , crank is .010/.010.,Lunati hyd. = cam 490 lift, 224dur@.050, 114 lsa, roller timing chain w/ timing cover. $150*** I also have a 455 all standard short block.$400 *** Another 455 short block .030 block w/mains studded, crank .010/.010, stock = rods fully polished w/ARP rod bolts, Speed Pro forged .030 pistons, a Comp Cams = 294s solid cam (.525 lift int&exh, 244@.050 duration int&exh, 110 lsa) Comp = Cams solid lifters, Mellings M54 oil pump, Pete Jackson gear drive, NEW timing = cover, Crower chrome moly push rods.$1100.*** Moroso stamped steel valve covers w/t-handles.$50*** Harland Sharp 1.5 full roller rockers w/locks,$150*** HEI distributer w/ 8.8mm wires.$35*** Two windage trays, one full length, one 4/5 length.$35ea. *** TH350 freshly rebuilt, Cheetah full manual valve body, deep oil pan, = chrome dip stick. $400*** Edelbrock Torker2 intake.$100*** A set of 670 heads ported to ram air IV intake gasket, w/NEW in box Ferrea valves.$650 *** A set of 5c heads, 3 angle valve job, very mild port job with NEW TRW ss = valves, Comp Cams #995 springs, teflon seals, ARP rocker studs.$350 *** A set of adjustable slapper bars for coil spring rear end.$90 *** A 8.5 10 bolt w/3.73 gears, mini spool fits g- body.$350 *** Holley 3310 750 w/fuel rail.$50*** New CE adjustable ladder bars w/54" cross member. $225.*** 2 215/65R15 like new $60, 2 265/50R15 33% worn $50. *** 80' Buick Regal, decent blue paint, full interior worn, batt. mounted in = trunk, all new front suspension parts, New manual disc & drum brakes all around, w/ above mentioned rearend, and above mentioned tires, Buick chrome rally wheels, = and above mention slapper bars, Lakewood drive shaft loop.$800. No reasonable offer refused! Please. I really must sell this stuff = quick.(before march 15th) Family emergency. Thanks
(back) Subject: Re: From 30 I can melt rubber.. From: "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:51:44 -0500 Speaking of Posi's I found a 1968 or 1969 GTO (I dont know which) with a = 12 bolt rearend in a local Junk yard. Didnt all GTO come with POSI?? Will this rear end fit in my 1968 Firebird? Just like it was made for it. I'm going to buy new springs and would like to swap all this out at the same time. Hmmm...Thanks, JOhn. -----Original Message----- From: Frank Zeller <fzeller@tri-austin.com> To: Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Date: Sunday, February 11, 2001 11:01 AM Subject: Re: From 30 I can melt rubber.. >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >......................................................................... >Sounds like you need a posi and make sure you don't have the back end jacked up. (this kills weight transfer) Tire smoke does not win races. > >Frank > >>>> jwern@gw.total-web.net 02/10/01 09:45PM >>> >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >......................................................................... >You guys, I just got done with the exhaust on my '68 Coupe 400. Let me >tell you. I put MAGNAFLOW performance exhaust mufflers with 2.5" pipes >starting at BlackJack headers all the way to where it bends over the axle >then went 2.25" the rest of the way. It seemed to give it a little back >pressure and let me tell you it gave it a sorta real deepish not loud = but >heard sorta like coming from the back of your throat rumble. If you are >thinking of exhaust really think about the Magna FLow. It's a straight thru >muffler. > >It's awesome when it idles you can hear the cam. If I'm cruizin at 30mph >and I put my foot all the way on it - the tire spins. If I get on it = from >a stand still it spins all the way from first into 3rd. It dont let up >till I do. I need springs in the back though. Or I've also come to the >conclusion - two people only. Nobody in the back seat. hee hee. Just >thought I'd let you guys know. John and a bad ass 400 coupe that looks like >it's asleep....
(back) Subject: RE: cam outcome? From: "Just Rod" <pjozif@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:22:31 -0000 hey thanks for the reply, i am also in the process of installing that cam, = talk to you in three weeks! Rod >Rod, > >I am in the process now of putting that cam into my car. I hope to be >running in about 3 weeks. > >Bob Trimpe _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
(back) Subject: Rick's First Generation website and address From: <kmorrow@socket.net> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:27:43 GMT Rick's has a website at www.firstgen.com , you can download a catalog = from the site. They are located in Athens, GA. Thanks, Kane kmorrow@socket.net
(back) Subject: question From: "matt schmid" <schmidmj@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:58:12 I'm getting close to finding the bird that I want. I've found a 67 326 = conv. here in South Carolina that I'm looking into. My question is, because I've = never owned anything but a little piece of s@!t 4 cylinder, what is the going rate for insurance on something like a 326? This would be for a 21 = yr. old male with a good driving record. If there is anyone who happens to = deal much with insurance, or anyone that just happens to know I wouldn't mind a = guesstimate. Thanks! Matt Schmid _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: RE: New addition From: "Rodger Fromm" <rwfromm@nf.sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:57:07 -0330 Be careful how much you allow your kids to like your car people, or you = will end uplike my father who had his 68 firebird snatched away(by me of = course) It was sitting on stands for 6 years when i got it in my head to get the exhaust fixed, 2 months before i got my license. Ever since the first summer with the car, my father knew he was not going to get it away from = me. I do not think he minds though cause he knows i love the car. Rodger
(back) Subject: Re: Wheel clearance From: "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:31:25 -0800 Compare shim stacks at the upper control arm(difference at the top of the wheel will be about doubble distance of shimpacks...I bet your install is correct. The design of these cars is prone to body shifting over time. Have you verified that both wheels are of the same offset/width? $.02 Rowan >From: "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> >As everyone on the list may or may not know, within the last year I >disassembled my entire front end and reassembled it with disk breakes. I >have 15x 7 ralley II's w235-70-R15's. I love the look. Only the = passenger >side rubs. When in a sharp turn. Well, with further examination I = find >that I can put three fingers (side by side) between the back of the = driver >side tire and the wheel the wheel well. AND I can only put two fingers = at >the same placement on the passenger side. What gives? Did I assemble = it >wrong on one side? The car drives straight as an arrow. Even when I put = >my >foot on the brakes hard. Anyone can lead me in the right way on this? >JOhn. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com