First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List Ashtray light by "Keith Donmoyer" <kadonny@hotmail.com> RE: Firebird-L Digest #1750/Re: Anybody out there? Help me I wanna cruiz by "A Jason Maynard" <ajasonm@one.net.au> Ashtray light is available repo for $10 by <kmorrow@socket.net> electrical gremlin keeps me on jackstands! by <BHA676@aol.com> Emblems;Re-enamel by "larry diede" <ldiede@bangkok.com> Re: Oakland hot rod show pictures by <hugoba@apcom.com> Console redone. by "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> Re: Emblems;Re-enamel by "Dennis Rolston" <hotroddr@juno.com> RE: Emblems;Re-enamel by "Trimpe, Bob" <TrimpeB@rajones.com> Re: 2001 HotRod Power Tour by "Jeff Davis" <Jeff_Davis19@excite.com> Re: Repro 400 hood by "Jeff Lane" <JeffLane32@hotmail.com> Re: Emblems;Re-enamel by "ROY D LUMSDEN" <rlumsden@tampabay.rr.com> Re: Repro 400 hood by <Paddy68@aol.com> Re: fresh engine breakin by <Paddy68@aol.com> Re: Anybody out there? Help me I wanna cruize...And I cant get up... by <Paddy68@aol.com> Re: Anybody out there? Help me I wanna cruize...And I cant getup... by <Paddy68@aol.com> Re: Emblems;Re-enamel by <Paddy68@aol.com> Re: Emblems;Re-enamel by "James" <gonz123@ibm.net> Re: Ashtray light is available repo for $10 by "Charles Hazelton" <chuckhazelton@surfree.com>
(back) Subject: Ashtray light From: "Keith Donmoyer" <kadonny@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:33:26 -0500 Chris, yes my fibre optics are all in tact (i think although you never know when something is not working). The wire is there and also the little plastic piece that holds it into the ashtray, its just not working, I assume it is = disconnected or wire may be bad at the connection by the back of the = guages. Keith 68 H.O. Subject: ashtray light From: "Chris Porter" <fxstsb@pop.sttl.uswest.net> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 08:55:14 -0800 I let you know Keith. I think it 'll be easy, and lot less than the $40 I saw that ashtray going for on E-bay. You said your car has this but it's not working. Is the fibre optics still in tact ? I'll be doing it (attempting) in a week or two, I'll let you know what happens. Chris `68 350 H.O. Drop-top _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: RE: Firebird-L Digest #1750/Re: Anybody out there? Help me I wanna cruize...And I cant get up... From: "A Jason Maynard" <ajasonm@one.net.au> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:06:35 +0800 When I push the emergency flasher knob in my indictors stop working.... Jason 68 400 Subject: Re: Anybody out there? Help me I wanna cruize...And I cant get up... From: "AL ROJAS" <amr@appsig.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:56:31 -0800 Could be your flasher. What happens when you turn on the emergency = lights?
(back) Subject: Ashtray light is available repo for $10 From: <kmorrow@socket.net> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:08:18 GMT Saw someone asking about the fiber optic ashtray light for a 68. Try = Rick's First Generation. It is a Camaro parts place but they have alot of hard to = find parts the other guys don't have like the ashtray light for 9.95. They also = have hard to find things like upper ball joint rivets, speedminder knobs, and = lots of technically correct bolts and hardware. Kane kmorrow@socket.net
(back) Subject: electrical gremlin keeps me on jackstands! From: <BHA676@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:39:17 EST I recently replaced my solenoid thinking that it was the problem with my = hot starts. Well....now my car wont turn over at all even though the starter will start the car when i bypass the solenoid. Heres what is happening = I turn the ignition and nothing happens no click nothing however the lights = on my instrument panel dim so something is happening. WHat is this a = ignition switch problem? or is it grounding out? Maybe the new rebuilt solenoid isnt working? How can I tell? I need my car back on the road as this = is great convertible(non ac) weather! I love droughts! Screw my lawn. Brad 67 400 convert
(back) Subject: Emblems;Re-enamel From: "larry diede" <ldiede@bangkok.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:55:50 -0700 Does anyone on the list know where or how to do it your self to re-enamel the Firebird emblems? Is this too much trouble and should one just buy the repos? Thanks, Larry ----------------------------------------------- Thailand's BEST Free Email at Bangkok.com - http://mail.bangkok.com
(back) Subject: Re: Oakland hot rod show pictures From: <hugoba@apcom.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:54:29 -0800 (PST) Yes! I actually had to go back and look at the picture. Wow, I didn't even = realize it till you mentioned it. Does it belong to a list member? Hugo > From Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com Sun Feb 11 22:28:18 2001 > Subject: Re: Oakland hot rod show pictures > Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 01:12:34 -0500 > From: Geoff Martin <Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org> > To: "First Generation Firebird-L" <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > Hugo, > > What did the '68 Firebird have on the rear panel? Was it "Freebird?" > > Thanks - Geoff > <Geoff@FirstGenFirebird.org> > > >I went to the Oakland hot rod show today so I put up some pictures at: > >http://www.apcom.com/fbody/htrd21101/ >
(back) Subject: Console redone. From: "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:34:23 -0500 Just to let everyone know the same clear coat I put on my Ralley wheels - KRYLON CLEAR ACRYLIC I got from Wall Mart did wonders on my burl wood. I took my 30 yo consloe apart, (it was really dull and faded) cleaned it really good - repainted the sides dull black and then sprayed the entire console less the chrome with three(3) coats of KRYLON clear acrylic paint. It came out great. The burl wood came back to life. I has to look like = it did brand new. I only waited maybe 20 min between coats. It goes on = really good. John.
(back) Subject: Re: Emblems;Re-enamel From: "Dennis Rolston" <hotroddr@juno.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:25:07 -0800 I re-painted my own emblems and they turned out very nice. I used a model car paint brush and Testors model car paint. It didnt last as long as I wished it would have so next time I will try a higher quality paint. They looked great. I just shaved off any paint that went outside the "lines" w/a razor blade which made for very crisp lines. Its not hard so dont bother buying new ones. good luck Dennis ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
(back) Subject: RE: Emblems;Re-enamel From: "Trimpe, Bob" <TrimpeB@rajones.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:36:16 -0500 Larry, I had good luck just painting mine with Testors model paints. Regular old red, white and black. Flat black for the background on the hood numbers. I used a toothpick -- mashed up the end a little so the splinters look = like brush hairs. A couple of coats to build up some thickness. Any goofs = scrape right off the chrome with an xacto knife. Look like a million! Bob Trimpe -----Original Message----- From: larry diede [mailto:ldiede@bangkok.com] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 9:56 AM To: Firebird-l@oakmediacreations.com Subject: Emblems;Re-enamel First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List .......................................................................... Does anyone on the list know where or how to do it your self to re-enamel the Firebird emblems? Is this too much trouble and should one just buy the repos? Thanks, Larry
(back) Subject: Re: 2001 HotRod Power Tour From: "Jeff Davis" <Jeff_Davis19@excite.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:10:56 -0800 (PST) I won't be making the tour but I'll tell you about my first long trip = after I bought my '68 convertible. I drove from Atlanta, GA to Jacksonville, FL where I stayed with my dad = for a day or two. Then I proceeded to Miami....along the way a radiator hose burst, in Melbourne/Merritt Island area. Luckily, I was at a McDonald's = and there was a Discount Auto Parts store at the next light, well within = walking distance. SO...be sure to check your hoses AND belts, take a set of tools with you. Put one or two anti-freeze jugs filled with water in your trunk. You may not need it, but someone else might. That old "better safe than sorry" adage. Good luck and enjoy the tour! Jeff On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:18:54 -0800 (PST), First Generation Firebird-L = wrote: > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > Ok folfs, > > The 2001 Hot Rod Magazine Power Tour will travel from Pontiac MI to San = > Bernardino CA starting on May 3rd. What a better place to start a tour like > this! > > I'm planning on driving to the start and join the tour. How many of you are > planning on attending even for aprt of the way? > It would be great to meet up with folks on the list along the way and hopefully > some of you will be brave enough to go the whole way. > > Last year I started from San bernardino and went as far as Albuquerque. = > > My dilema is, I have never driven any of my 1st gens for that kind of distance > so I am concerned about reliability. At least this year it should not = be as > hot since it's in early May. Last year we pulled into Phoenix and it = was 110! > I took my 98 TA and it didn't flinch at the high temps with the AC = going full > blast. I'd like to take either the 69 convertible or the 67 400. = Neither have a > heating issue but... > > Anyway, let me know if any of you will be attending and also let me = know what > you think about my concerns. > > BTW, the tour information is at: > > http://www.emapusaevents.com/touring_events/te_f.html > > Hugo _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
(back) Subject: Re: Repro 400 hood From: "Jeff Lane" <JeffLane32@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:33:58 -0500 I just got mine for my 69 and it's sitting in my garage in the box still. = I did inspect it and it looks real nice quality. Not sure of the gauge of steel used, but it's pretty heavy :) Have yet to see the fit, but I know it's going to really make a difference on the car once painted! My current hood was repaired with bondo in the front latch area so the previous owner had to put in hood pins so it wouldn't fly open... The used hoods I've = seen for sale are, well - used and not in perfect condition and sell for about the same if not more than these repros. Can send pictures if interested. Jeff. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Chynoweth" <pinec@pitnet.net> To: "First Generation Firebird-L" <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 10:06 PM Subject: Repro 400 hood > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > Now that the repro hoods have been available for awhile, > I was wondering if anyone with experience with them could > make a recomendation on them, > anyone put the repro hood on a 67? the literature in the catalogs state for > 68-69 > what was your experience? > Todd > > > >
(back) Subject: Re: Emblems;Re-enamel From: "ROY D LUMSDEN" <rlumsden@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:47:01 -0500 I've done this to several emblems. I use spray can enamel. It's already thinned and flows really good, dries fast and, comes in any color you = want. Before painting, I recommend you use a good chrome polish and Q-tips to clean and polish the emblem. My procedure for painting is simple: -With the color of your choice, spray it into the paint's cap until it puddles. -With a small straw (I use the one that came with my WD-40), draw the = paint into the straw and cap it with you finger (be careful, the paint doesn't taste very good). -Place the end over the area to be repainted and let a drop of paint fall into the groove. Repeat until you covered all the areas. -Use a second and third coat (at least 30 minutes apart) to add depth to = the color. -Wrap a clean lint free cotton cloth (like and old bed sheet) around a = stiff putty knife and dip in thinner. Not too much, just to dampen the cloth . -Wipe the sloppy spills off the top of the emblem. Easy! The hardest part is the polishing. You can use a small hypodermic in place of the straw if one is convenient. Good Luck, Roy ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry diede" <ldiede@bangkok.com> To: <Firebird-l@oakmediacreations.com> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 9:55 AM Subject: Emblems;Re-enamel > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > Does anyone on the list know where or how to do it your self to > re-enamel the Firebird emblems? > > Is this too much trouble and should one just buy the repos? > > Thanks, > > Larry > > ----------------------------------------------- > Thailand's BEST Free Email at Bangkok.com - http://mail.bangkok.com > > >
(back) Subject: Re: Repro 400 hood From: <Paddy68@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:42:04 EST Now that the repro hoods have been available for awhile, I was wondering if anyone with experience with them could make a recomendation on them, anyone put the repro hood on a 67? the literature in the catalogs state = for 68-69 what was your experience? Todd >From what I remember while working for Bill we found that the hood latch = was different on the 68-9 to accommodate the safety latch. The newer birds = had a deeper or longer hole I believe. The 67's also seemed to have a slightly higher beak at the very tip of the hood but not by much. The hood will = fit without a problem. If you want to be 100% sure you can trade your latch mechanism with one from a 68. Good luck.
(back) Subject: Re: fresh engine breakin From: <Paddy68@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:57:57 EST thats not the way I would breakin a fresh motor. Have you changed your oil & filter yet? heres what i do. Run engine for 30 minutes high steady idle to breakin cam drain oil and change filter, run 500 miles using new car breakin rules. Change oil and filter again. first few miles should be a light throttle then coast light throttle then = coast. this will help in seating rings. NO full throttle blasts.... I know its tempting but its proven that the infancy of a fresh engine will pretty much determine its life. have fun and make it last. Gary I don't know how true that is. I'm not trying to start a war but my = friend owns a speed/machine shop and when he dyno's an engine he breaks in the = cam via the manufacturers recommended 2400 rpm for 20 minute deal. He then changes the oil to get rid of the assembly lube and whatever metal = fragments might be left from the machining process. Even after his hot tanking, pressure washing and standard washing there is still a chance there are pieces still in the engine. After the cam has been broken in he makes = full pulls on it up to 7500 depending on the engine combo. He could make as = many as 10 pulls before you get the engine. With each pull he is changing = things to see where the engine makes the most power. He can easily get ten to twenty more horses out of your combo by doing things like jetting, timing, = different carbs/manifolds (depending on the customers needs). You also = get an engine that is ready to fire and run at peak performance when you get = it. No testing needed by you in the car. Just plop it in and drive away. = These engines range anywhere from circle track/drag racing applications to = street motors. It seems to work for him. He says that if it's done right the = sh*-t should stay together.
(back) Subject: Re: Anybody out there? Help me I wanna cruize...And I cant get up... From: <Paddy68@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:20:44 EST Is anybody out there this morning? I'm sure someone has had this problem. My tail/brake lights. If I put the #1157 bulb in the socket the light = comes on (normal? Very dim) when I put it in the hole it lights very bright. It's like the brake lights are stuck on. and when I push the brake pedal, = I don't have brake lights. but I do have a blinker light in the rear on the left side untill I hit the brakes and then nothing (only in the front) <--and that is wierd. Both turn signals work in the front. Anybody got a clue? I want to cruize but as we all know safety is paramont + being = leagel is priority It sounds like you wired the tail lights backwards. I usually put a bulb = in the new socket and turn the lights on. Take the two power wires and hold them, one at a time to the new sockets power line. Once the light lights = up you have the tail light power wire on the new socket. Here is where most people screw up. Most people wire the brighter or higher voltage wire = into the tail light wire. The brighter wire is for the brake light. The = dimmer or lower voltage wire is for the tail lights. I guess people thing the dimmer one is to help the ground or something. You need to switch the two = power wires around and I think that should do the trick. I would also = check all the grounds in the trunk. With all the splatter paint people use the ground wire is often times not touching enough metal to do the job = correctly. I would also check the bottom of the lenses where the socket plugs in. Often times people paint the back of the tail lights and the ground tab on = the socket doesn't touch the metal of the tail light. I don't know how important this part is since the lights will light up out of the socket = but it is worth a try if you are still having problems. On a side note. The strangest thing I ever had go wrong with my tail lights was a weird one. I had a short in my tail light harness which kept = my interior lights on at all times. I couldn't figure it out and the last = thing I thought it would be would be my tail lights. I brought it to a friend = who is an ASE certified mechanic and 5 minutes later the car rolled back out = of the shop. Boy did I feel foolish. I guess what I'm trying to say is...if = you can't figure it out, bring it to your mechanic. Chances are he has = seen this before and can fix it quickly and cheaply. Good luck.
(back) Subject: Re: Anybody out there? Help me I wanna cruize...And I cant getup... From: <Paddy68@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:31:33 EST Stu - You are the man. The gosh damn bulbs were backwards. -- Well it wasnt the bulbs it was the wires. But when I took your advice and tuned = the bulbs around it worked. But because the bulbes can only go one way. I switced the wires and waalaaa. Then there were lights - stop light and blinkers and all. Holy moley I have been wirking on these lights all day since about 11:30. No stress though. It's a hobby, a love, a crazy game. John. I guess I should read ahead before posting. You figured it out before I = gave advice. Congrats and happy cruising.
(back) Subject: Re: Emblems;Re-enamel From: <Paddy68@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:39:04 EST Does anyone on the list know where or how to do it your self to re-enamel the Firebird emblems? Is this too much trouble and should one just buy the repos? Thanks, I'm not sure what you mean? Do you mean re painting the emblems? It = sounds like you want to clear coat the entire emblem. They were just chromed originally if that is what you planned on doing. Other wise I think it is = just auto paint that is baked on at a low temp. The color is another = story. Find a color that is close and go with it. Make sure you paint all the emblems the same color so they all match. If you are talking about the clear resin that fills in the bird = emblems I think you should buy the repro's. If you get the wrong stuff or they = aren't cured totally they can haze over, crack, or yellow. Good luck.
(back) Subject: Re: Emblems;Re-enamel From: "James" <gonz123@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:08:46 -0500 I did much the same - as a final step though I coated them with a clear polyeurethane,so mine have been going strong 2 years now. I doubt any paint,high quality or no,would last long without the poly. Besides that they look more authentic too as the originals certainly had a clear coat of some sort. James Dennis Rolston wrote: > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = .......................................................................... > I re-painted my own emblems and they turned out very nice. I used a > model car paint brush and Testors model car paint. It didnt last as = long > as I wished it would have so next time I will try a higher quality = paint. > They looked great. I just shaved off any paint that went outside the > "lines" w/a razor blade which made for very crisp lines. Its not hard = so > dont bother buying new ones. good luck > Dennis > ________________________________________________________________
(back) Subject: Re: Ashtray light is available repo for $10 From: "Charles Hazelton" <chuckhazelton@surfree.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:39:25 -0800 Are they on the net? Do you have the URL or a phone # for them. Thanks. Chuck Hazelton 68 350 conv. ----- Original Message ----- From: <kmorrow@socket.net> To: <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 6:08 AM Subject: Ashtray light is available repo for $10 > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > Saw someone asking about the fiber optic ashtray light for a 68. Try Rick's > First Generation. It is a Camaro parts place but they have alot of hard = to find > parts the other guys don't have like the ashtray light for 9.95. They = also have > hard to find things like upper ball joint rivets, speedminder knobs, and lots > of technically correct bolts and hardware. > > Kane > > kmorrow@socket.net