First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List Carb Idle solonoid on Manual Trans Cars by <JGeigel@aol.com> Re: hot start problem? tThis is how to bypass the solenoid. by <BHA676@aol.com> Re: Coolant recovery tank by "Attila Szabo" <Attila_Sz@excite.com> PHS ? by "Chris Porter" <fxstsb@pop.sttl.uswest.net> Re: tThis is how to bypass the solenoid. by "Just Rod" <pjozif@hotmail.com> Anyone by "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> Re: PHS ? by "Steve" <poncho68sa@hotmail.com> Re: Coolant recovery tank by "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> Re: A Piece of your 67? (was: SF First Gen Get Together) by "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Re: Anyone by "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Re: what is the odds by "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Re: Anyone by "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> 350 power tricks? by "Just Rod" <pjozif@hotmail.com> Re: Turn signal repair by "Charles Hazelton" <chuckhazelton@surfree.com> Members List Update by "Geoff Martin" <Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org> Re: 350 power tricks? by "Steve" <poncho68sa@hotmail.com> Re: Coolant recovery tank by "Bob Trimpe" <trimpe@fuse.net> AOL 6.0 Work Around by "Geoff Martin" <Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org> Re: 350 power tricks? by "Michael Howell" <fishgod@iglou.com> Re: 350 power tricks? by <hugoba@apcom.com> Re: 350 power tricks? by "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> Members List (Update to Update) by "Geoff Martin" <Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org> Re: Coolant recovery tank by "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> test of 6.0 by <FB1967428@aol.com> Owner Show Pages Updated (2-3-2001) by "Geoff Martin" <Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org> eStore Update by "Geoff Martin" <Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org> RE: hot start problem? tThis is how to bypass the solenoid. (top THIS on by "TG" <togross@ibm.net>
(back) Subject: Carb Idle solonoid on Manual Trans Cars From: <JGeigel@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:16:17 EST Guys, My 68 bird (400HO / 4spd,) didn't have a fast idle solenoid on it when I = got it. Should it have one of these? I've seen NOS and repros around. Joe Geigel
(back) Subject: Re: hot start problem? tThis is how to bypass the solenoid. From: <BHA676@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 12:09:27 EST oh he told me to turn the key and i thought that meant all the way. Even better I wont be stranded again. I am at this moment replacing my = solenoid. brad 67 400 convert
(back) Subject: Re: Coolant recovery tank From: "Attila Szabo" <Attila_Sz@excite.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:49:44 -0800 (PST) did you guys receive the pictures of the coolant tank ok? just wondering, have had some problems with sending email in the past. Sytems networking = is FUN. let me know Attila _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
(back) Subject: PHS ? From: "Chris Porter" <fxstsb@pop.sttl.uswest.net> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 11:58:02 -0800 How far back can Pontiac Historical Services go ? A friend has a `66 Le Mans he was interested in researching. Can't remember the web address, anyone..............? Thanks. Chris `68 350 H.O. Drop-top
(back) Subject: Re: tThis is how to bypass the solenoid. From: "Just Rod" <pjozif@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 20:43:59 -0000 >ROTFLMAO- a good old boy? WTF >--neat trick though! had similar situation, turned out to be loose >solenoid >wire? >Rod >. Finally a good old boy stopped and > >showed me how to bypass the solenoid brad _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
(back) Subject: Anyone From: "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 16:50:42 -0500 A few of us have Hurst V-Matic2 Shifters. I installed mine today but do = not have the Neutral Safety & back up light connections (as so stated on the Hurst Web page) so after a little more investigating I find the shifter I have is one for the original 1970-1981 Firebirds. Does anyone know where the switches were in the 70-81 birds? Thanks. Millions John.
(back) Subject: Re: PHS ? From: "Steve" <poncho68sa@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 17:15:41 -0500 Pontiac Historic Services Private company authorized by General Motors' Pontiac Division to provide historical information to Pontiac owners, restorers and collectors. http://www.phs-online.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Porter <fxstsb@pop.sttl.uswest.net> To: First Generation Firebird-L <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 2:58 PM Subject: PHS ? > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > How far back can Pontiac Historical Services go ? A friend > has a `66 Le Mans he was interested in researching. Can't > remember the web address, anyone..............? Thanks. > > > Chris > `68 350 H.O. Drop-top >
(back) Subject: Re: Coolant recovery tank From: "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 18:10:35 -0500 Attila, The pics got here. I understand how yours is but well, coming up with a bottle's a different story. Is ther a part # on your bottle? = Thanks John. -----Original Message----- From: Attila Szabo <Attila_Sz@excite.com> To: First Generation Firebird-L <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Date: Saturday, February 03, 2001 2:54 PM Subject: Re: Coolant recovery tank >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >......................................................................... >did you guys receive the pictures of the coolant tank ok? just = wondering, >have had some problems with sending email in the past. Sytems networking is >FUN. let me know >Attila > > > >
(back) Subject: Re: A Piece of your 67? (was: SF First Gen Get Together) From: "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 15:22:08 -0800 MMMMM HMMM www.cruzers.com/~rowan check it out!....my first html project describes the thing : ) >From: "ROY D LUMSDEN" <rlumsden@tampabay.rr.com> >Perhaps I missed the thread. Are you parting out a 67? > >Roy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: Re: Anyone From: "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 15:28:18 -0800 My hurst shifter has that (a small black plastic part)on the passenger = side of the shifter, towards the front, right next to the handle. It is = covered by the console shift indicator. Both switches are included in the one peice. Hope this helps. Rowan*68 >From: "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> >A few of us have Hurst V-Matic2 Shifters. I installed mine today but do >not >have the Neutral Safety & back up light connections (as so stated on the >Hurst Web page) so after a little more investigating I find the shifter I >have is one for the original 1970-1981 Firebirds. Does anyone know where >the switches were in the 70-81 birds? Thanks. Millions John. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: Re: what is the odds From: "x1r1 x" <x1r1@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 15:53:05 -0800 Odds? Ever noticed how problms seem to come in waves of one type or another sometimes? I was just working on my friends '71 Dart... She had Simultaneus failure of both front and rear brake hydraulic = systems, and parked on a streetlight. Nobody was hurt. Maybe it is just brakes season. My hippie/new age friends all swear that mechanical stuff fails when Mercury is in retrograde, and sure enough, thats when their stuff breaks. = Im more inclined to beleive a sort of jealousy thing, that other car say = how many nice parts on your bird, and wanted to grab your attention. Rowan *68 'take my advice, Im not using it' _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
(back) Subject: Re: Anyone From: "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:09:12 -0500 Is there any way you could take a picture? Does it look like something I could fabricate? Is it attachable and detachable (can I order one?) There is nothing on the diagram for it.I recieved the diagram and instructions from Hurst. I called them on Friday and could not get through. Thanks = you very much. John. -----Original Message----- From: x1r1 x <x1r1@hotmail.com> To: Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Date: Saturday, February 03, 2001 6:59 PM Subject: Re: Anyone >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >......................................................................... >My hurst shifter has that (a small black plastic part)on the passenger = side >of the shifter, towards the front, right next to the handle. It is = covered >by the console shift indicator. Both switches are included in the one >peice. >Hope this helps. >Rowan*68 > > >>From: "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> > >>A few of us have Hurst V-Matic2 Shifters. I installed mine today but do >>not >>have the Neutral Safety & back up light connections (as so stated on the >>Hurst Web page) so after a little more investigating I find the shifter = I >>have is one for the original 1970-1981 Firebirds. Does anyone know = where >>the switches were in the 70-81 birds? Thanks. Millions John. >
(back) Subject: 350 power tricks? From: "Just Rod" <pjozif@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 02:17:38 -0000 what is the best way to liven up a 350 pontiac? other than a camshaft! a swap from 2bbl to 4bbl? exhaust? how about the other little tricks like a cold thermostat,open element, = k+n, carb spacer, high energy wires or a super coil?--- is there anything else? ROD _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
(back) Subject: Re: Turn signal repair From: "Charles Hazelton" <chuckhazelton@surfree.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:13:26 -0800 Thanks for all the suggestions. Haven't isolated the problem yet, so I'm = on the verge of popping $45 for a new turn signal switch. Nothing else seems wrong. One bright spot during this lengthy trouble-shooting process--- I found out why the gas guage needle never moved. Rodents had chewed the = wire to the sending unit in two. Thanks again for the help. Chuck Hazelton 68 350 conv (which can only wink at you with the left eye) Subject: Turn signal repair > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > Check in your steering column. Most likely a problem in the > turn signal switch. Good luck. > > > Chris > `68 350 H.O. Drop-top
(back) Subject: Members List Update From: "Geoff Martin" <Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:10:33 -0500 Updated Members List: http://FirstGenFirebird.org/list/members.pdf Bob has updated the information sent to him. I believe all the information sent to me made it on the update but check to make sure. I am not sure I was diligent sending Bob the information. You can now click on the web links in the PDF file to take you directly to the web pages using the latest PDF Reader. The mail links will not function the same way at this time. Enjoy - Geoff '68 Mayfair Maize Firebird 350 Convertible <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/closeup.mv?CarID=3D46> <Geoff@FirstGenFirebird.org>
(back) Subject: Re: 350 power tricks? From: "Steve" <poncho68sa@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:13:03 -0500 Replace it with a 400 - 455 ----- Original Message ----- From: Just Rod <pjozif@hotmail.com> To: <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 9:17 PM Subject: 350 power tricks? > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > what is the best way to liven up a 350 pontiac? other than a camshaft! > a swap from 2bbl to 4bbl? > exhaust? > how about the other little tricks like a cold thermostat,open element, k+n, > carb spacer, high energy wires or a super coil?--- > is there anything else? > ROD > = _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at = http://www.hotmail.com. >
(back) Subject: Re: Coolant recovery tank From: "Bob Trimpe" <trimpe@fuse.net> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:18:32 -0500 Got it fine. I can use the info Thanks, Bob Trimpe Attila Szabo wrote: > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > did you guys receive the pictures of the coolant tank ok? just = wondering, > have had some problems with sending email in the past. Sytems = networking is > FUN. let me know > Attila > > _______________________________________________________ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > >
(back) Subject: AOL 6.0 Work Around From: "Geoff Martin" <Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:17:31 -0500 I have been told the following will work and has been in use by AOL 6.0 users. A bunch of us are still working on a filter solution so you do not have to do the following. Geoff ----------------- When communicating with Internet recipients who are not using an email program capable of selecting which MIME section to view, an AOL 6.0 user can turn off the HTML using the following steps: 1. Change your global email preferences (only needs to be done once): a. Go to Keyword: Preferences (or choose Preferences from the Settings menu on the AOL 6.0 toolbar). b. Click on Font, Text, & Graphics Preferences. c. Click on the Reset button at the bottom of the resulting window. Do not make any changes in the Font Preferences area of the window. d. Click on the Save button. 2. Change a specific email to plain text (must be done for every email): a. Compose and address the email as desired. b. Choose Select All from the Edit menu to highlight the entire message. c. With the mouse arrow somewhere over the highlighted text, click the Right mouse button, revealing a contextual menu (AKA Right-Click). d. Choose Normal from the Text menu. e. Taking care not to make any further changes to the message, send it. Note that changing the text to normal will eliminate the "blue bar" quoted text indicator, but will not remove some HTML elements of the quoted text. The entire quoted section must be deleted (or simply not quoted in the first place), followed by the re-entry of the text quoted manually, prior to changing the text to normal. Changing the text to normal will also eliminate any styled text that would have been seen by AOL recipients of the message, which cannot be re-added. Testing also suggests that messages with hyperlinks cannot be converted to normal text, requiring the prior removal of the link. (Thanks to Carpenma for identifying the second part of this solution.)
(back) Subject: Re: 350 power tricks? From: "Michael Howell" <fishgod@iglou.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:22:10 -0500 Rod- My 350 has had the following mods to it, none really difficult... 1.65 rockers Edelbrock performer 4bbl intake and carb pertronix electronic ignition k&n filter stock manifolds and "x" pipe style exhaust It's got plenty of power for street driving without having to swap the = cam. Best of all if you like to cruise, I can avg 18 mpg highway with it. Pretty darn good for an original (not rebuilt) 350 4bbl if you ask me. Mike 68 350 Coupe http://fishgod.home.dhs.org/firebird/firebird.html >what is the best way to liven up a 350 pontiac? other than a camshaft!
(back) Subject: Re: 350 power tricks? From: <hugoba@apcom.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:32:06 -0800 (PST) Replace it with a 455? ;-) But seriously folks, what ever you can do to make your engine breathe = better will help. Headers, 4 barrel intake, heads, etc. I don't think that hotter wires will buy you much. A K&N is nice but you = may gain one or two horses at best. You should get a baseline dyno reading before you do anything so that you = can then quantify your improvements. You should dyno the car with and without = an air cleaner and you will see that the difference is not that much (unless = your filter is really clogged up). SOTP (Seat Of The Pants) readings are not very accurate. Hugo > From Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com Sat Feb 3 20:07:02 2001 > X-Originating-IP: [161.184.196.184] > From: "Just Rod" <pjozif@hotmail.com> > To: Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com > Subject: 350 power tricks? > Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 02:17:38 -0000 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2001 02:17:38.0513 (UTC) > FILETIME=3D[A51E5410:01C08E50] > > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > what is the best way to liven up a 350 pontiac? other than a camshaft! > a swap from 2bbl to 4bbl? > exhaust? > how about the other little tricks like a cold thermostat,open element, = k+n, > carb spacer, high energy wires or a super coil?--- > is there anything else? > ROD
(back) Subject: Re: 350 power tricks? From: "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:46:05 -0500 Rod - there is a pretty good article in Car Craft about exaust and "x" pipes. (This month) Also some one on the list (Frank?) sent in a article about Jim Hand that talked a great deal about exhaust. Check those = articles out and the one about Jim Hand has a few links that lead you in all kinds = of directions. Definatly put on a 4bbl and open up the exaust. Other than power increase - the sound can be better than any music youve ever heard. Let her breath. She'll feel real good. I guarantee it'll make you smile. John. -----Original Message----- From: Just Rod <pjozif@hotmail.com> To: Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Date: Saturday, February 03, 2001 10:59 PM Subject: 350 power tricks? >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >......................................................................... >what is the best way to liven up a 350 pontiac? other than a camshaft! >a swap from 2bbl to 4bbl? >exhaust? >how about the other little tricks like a cold thermostat,open element, = k+n, >carb spacer, high energy wires or a super coil?--- >is there anything else? >ROD >
(back) Subject: Members List (Update to Update) From: "Geoff Martin" <Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:31:42 -0500 If you are like me and had the Acrobat plug-in for your browser, you could not view the document. I used DropStuff to compress it and enable you to download the list to disk. Point your browser to for this type of file: http://FirstGenFirebird.org/list/members.pdf.sea.sit Hope this can work for you if you have the same problem. I got it to work on my system but realize everyone does not have the same system and software. I can email it directly if needed. As always, email me DIRECTLY for the last request. Hope this helps - Geoff '68 Mayfair Maize Firebird 350 Convertible <http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/closeup.mv?CarID=3D46> <Geoff@FirstGenFirebird.org> >Updated Members List: >http://FirstGenFirebird.org/list/members.pdf
(back) Subject: Re: Coolant recovery tank From: "John Wern" <jwern@gw.total-web.net> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:48:42 -0500 Bob - Got any ideas or tricks up your sleeve? I've been thinking about = it. I went to the local pull - it yard I got some ideas but nothing behind = the fender. John. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Trimpe <trimpe@fuse.net> To: First Generation Firebird-L <Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com> Date: Saturday, February 03, 2001 11:28 PM Subject: Re: Coolant recovery tank >First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >......................................................................... >Got it fine. I can use the info > >Thanks, >Bob Trimpe > >Attila Szabo wrote: > >> First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List >> = ......................................................................... >> did you guys receive the pictures of the coolant tank ok? just wondering, >> have had some problems with sending email in the past. Sytems = networking is >> FUN. let me know >> Attila
(back) Subject: test of 6.0 From: <FB1967428@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:53:05 EST Want to see if I can know post again.
(back) Subject: Owner Show Pages Updated (2-3-2001) From: "Geoff Martin" <Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:54:34 -0500 Subject: Owner Show Pages Updated (2-3-2001) Added some more owners today to the First Generation Firebird Owners' Show Pages: Al Yelton 1967 Regimental Red Firebird 400 Convertible (http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/closeup.mv?CarID=3D122) ------------------- Enjoy - Geoff '68 Mayfair Maize Firebird 350 Convertible (http://FirstGenFirebird.org/show/closeup.mv?CarID=3D46) (Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org) More information about adding your car or link to the owner pages: (http://FirstGenFirebird.org/firebird/owners/info.html) (Make sure to drop the "(" and ")" when using the URLs) *It is free to join this show plus a good way to show off your First Generation Firebirds!
(back) Subject: eStore Update From: "Geoff Martin" <Geoff@firstgenfirebird.org> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 00:03:37 -0500 Reluctant to post a message for our eStore but a few listers have asked for the following in the past and it supports funding for this list. We have started using PayPal as our payment provider plus have added custom embroidered caps to our selection. Looking into adding a different style mug plus a mouse pad. More information at: http://FirstGenFirebird.org/store Geoff <Geoff@FirstGenFirebird.org>
(back) Subject: RE: hot start problem? tThis is how to bypass the solenoid. (top THIS one!) From: "TG" <togross@ibm.net> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 00:12:10 -0500 OK - years ago, I couldn't afford to keep swaping starter and solenoids = for my '68 bird. I was on the college fencing team, and had some spare foils (the ~3 ft. = long thin metal blade). One end of the jumper cable on the battery, one end of the foil past the headers to the starter lug, tap the other end of the jumper to the top of the foil, and voila! A theft-proof bird. Can't decide if I got dates because of my ingenutiy, or the girls just wanted to date a lunatic once. My wife swears it's the latter, but married me anyway. Todd '68 400 conv, soon with folding rear seat -----Original Message----- From: Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com [mailto:Firebird-L@oakmediacreations.com]On Behalf Of scott Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 8:29 PM To: First Generation Firebird-L Subject: Re: hot start problem? tThis is how to bypass the solenoid. First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List ...........................................................................= Brad you don't need 2 people, just turn the ignition to the run position = and get under there with your screwdriver it will start. > started right up! This takes 2 people as one is under the car and the other > inside. I drove home no problem and right away jacked the car up and dropped > the starter. > > brad > 67 400 convert