First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List Re: Sub frame bolt questions?? by "Niklas Ridell" <vcc2.nridell@memo.volvo.se> Re: Full Tank of Gas -- Pee-yew! by "Jeff Davis" <Jeff_Davis19@excite.com> Re: Alternate Fuel Systems by "Jeff Davis" <Jeff_Davis19@excite.com> Re: i rebuilt the carb and now it leaks.. by "Jeff Davis" <Jeff_Davis19@excite.com> Re: i rebuilt the carb and now it leaks.. by "Frank Zeller" <fzeller@tri-austin.com> RE: Firebird-L Digest #1714 by "Brett Luikkonen" <brett@cisdirect.com> Re: Alternate Fuel Systems by "scott" <saltyd@home.com> Re: Full Tank of Gas -- Pee-yew! by <F119flight@aol.com>
(back) Subject: Re: Sub frame bolt questions?? From: "Niklas Ridell" <vcc2.nridell@memo.volvo.se> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:35:02 +0100 In one of the autumn 2000 issues of HPP they described this operation. They cut a hole just above the nut in the cross member to access the nut. Then welded back the cup that holds the nut. If you then want to weld the patch back to hide the nut is up to you, I mean the carpet and seat will cover this area. The car they did this to was a second gen. but I suppose our cars are similar in design. If needed I can see if I can find that magazine and fax you a copy (no scanner). /Niklas > --------------------------------------------------- > > I will be replacing my body bushing shortly. And have a problem. They = are > very bad the pass. Side rear bushing is GONE ... upper and lower. And = bolt is > loose the previous owner (pre Aug. 00) broke the factory nut loose. The = car > is a 67 coupe the interior in removed so the seat plate thing is in the = way. > I can drill the nut off (or the head form the bottom but than what?? I = can't > weld in that little access slot in the seat plate gusset. > I really need you guy's help on this one. > > John Costello >
(back) Subject: Re: Full Tank of Gas -- Pee-yew! From: "Jeff Davis" <Jeff_Davis19@excite.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:44:16 -0800 (PST) The filler tube was replaced about a year ago because it would leak while pumping gas into the tank. That doesn't happen any more so I don't = suspect that part. I'll be sure to look closely at it when the tank is down. = Have not noticed the smell of gas when the trunk is opened. I'll pay closer attention next time. I looked around the tank last night but did not find much to indicate = where the leak comes from. When the tank is closer to empty, I'll feel more comfortable lowering it to get a better look. What I did see is: At the top of the tank in the center appears to be the gauge sending unit and that area looks a little wet, especially around = where there might be a seal/gasket. The line is pretty well caked over (where = it runs horizontally across the tank, toward the fender) so I suspect that = gas is slowly seeping down the line, evaporating and caking as it goes. Not enough to drip, though. I saw a small puddle a few months ago, but after = a while, I think the tube got so cruddy that it (crud) is absorbing more of the gas, preventing the drip, and accumulating more crud. Any of you done this before? More to follow. Unless someone says "shaddup, boy". On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:45:29 EST, First Generation Firebird-L wrote: > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > In a message dated 1/23/01 6:05:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, saltyd@home.com > writes: > > << Jeff I would start with the rubber connector between the fill = opening and > the opening of the tank. >> > > > I would go with Scott on this one. Presumably you have crawled under = and > looked for visible leaks (with a flash light NOT a plug in light). I = have the > same condition in my 68 convertible and have a new tank to put in along with > the new rubber fill pipe coupling (can see the cracks in it). Are the fumes > strong in the trunk when you open it after filling the tank? _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
(back) Subject: Re: Alternate Fuel Systems From: "Jeff Davis" <Jeff_Davis19@excite.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:04:09 -0800 (PST) I'm all ears....or in the case of email, I'm all eyes! Please keep me posted. I'm curious now. Thanks, Jeff Davis On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 01:29:55 -0500, First Generation Firebird-L wrote: > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > Alrighty, found this in the Holley catalog. Looks like I can get a > "Pro-Jection" system. Bolts on to stock and aftermarket carb intakes. > Comes with a pump and all the control circuits/computer that it needs. > Sounds like a great system for those of us looking for better = reliability in > our daily drivers. At about $700 it seems worth it to me... Anyone = hear > anything else about it? I'm lookin at getting the 900cfm 4 barrel = rated for > motors producing 350-500 HP... > -- > James Larson, ETN2 USN > Saratoga Springs, NY > 1968 White Firebird 400 Coupe > _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
(back) Subject: Re: i rebuilt the carb and now it leaks.. From: "Jeff Davis" <Jeff_Davis19@excite.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:15:59 -0800 (PST) Pete, I SURE wish you lived around here, ATL, GA. Or at least wish I could find someone around here with that kind of knowledge. I'm getting really sick and tired of having carb trouble. Mine is a Q-Jet that was installed = about three years ago and I've not been thoroughly happy with it. The vacuum that you speak of -- is that affected by the TVS that has been discussed recently? The one (ported vac. switch) on mine is missing and I wonder if that's the biggest casue of my problems. Thanks for the advice you gave. I'll take it into consideration when I = get around to working on that problem. On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:35:49 -0800 (PST), First Generation Firebird-L = wrote: > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ......................................................................... > Brad, > You didn't mention what carb you have, although I assume it's > a Q-Jet. I had a similar problem with my Q-Jet rebuild and > found out the following: > > - Check for low vacuum; Some kits come with a base gasket that may > not seal well. I found that the plastic [or phonolic] inserts > (where the bolts go through) were too thick and didn't allow enough > compression of the seal. I found that my vacuum was low and I > suspected the base gasket. I cured this by removing and sanding > down the inserts approx. .020". You don't want to take too much off > because the insert prevent warping the carb when it's torqued down. > Tighten the bolts just enough to compress the gasket. Also, check > the vacuum tree off the back of the carb, they crack easily. > > - Check Float Level; it should be approx. 9/32 [or .281"]. I have > mine between .250 & .260 with a high flow needle main valve. > This can be done in the car if you can carefully take the top of the > carb off. Also, with fuel in the bowl you can see if the float > has sunk, [an undesireable condition when the float has failed]. > > - Make sure that the choke plate is fully open once engine is > warmed up. My carb was excessively wet with fuel around the choke > plate when it failed to open all the way and ran rich [of course]. > I was amazed how much fuel ran UP the back wall of the primaries! > > Hope this helps... > PeteJD > [69 400/400] > > > > = ........................................................................ > > After the rebuild of the carb that used to leak air like crazy with > the > > deluxe kit from ames( carb shop) i noticed a immediate increase in > power but > > i smell gas and i see a leak right under the non stock chrome air > cleaner i > > know its not original as mine is a 67 400 should be louvered. Is > this a carb > > problem or a air cleaner problem? should that much gas be around the > > air > > cleaner anyway? If not what is the most likely problem? is the > casting of > > the carb warped? I want to avoid engine fires so this is another > asap > > question! thanks in advance > > > > brad > > 67 400 convert _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
(back) Subject: Re: i rebuilt the carb and now it leaks.. From: "Frank Zeller" <fzeller@tri-austin.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:10:03 -0600 This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=3D_8CD7CBE1.FB9AF6C6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUS-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not TVS related. Use the little L square that came with the rebuild kit to = =3D check th float level. 0.250 if its a Q-jet. >>> Jeff_Davis19@excite.com 01/25/01 09:15AM >>> First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List .......................................................................... Pete, I SURE wish you lived around here, ATL, GA. Or at least wish I could find someone around here with that kind of knowledge. I'm getting really sick and tired of having carb trouble. Mine is a Q-Jet that was installed =3D about three years ago and I've not been thoroughly happy with it. The vacuum that you speak of -- is that affected by the TVS that has been discussed recently? The one (ported vac. switch) on mine is missing and I wonder if that's the biggest casue of my problems. Thanks for the advice you gave. I'll take it into consideration when I = =3D get around to working on that problem. On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:35:49 -0800 (PST), First Generation Firebird-L =3D wrote: > First Generation Firebird-L Mailing List > = ........................................................................=3D= .. > Brad, > You didn't mention what carb you have, although I assume it's > a Q-Jet. I had a similar problem with my Q-Jet rebuild and=3D20 > found out the following: > =3D20 > - Check for low vacuum; Some kits come with a base gasket that may=3D20 > not seal well. I found that the plastic [or phonolic] inserts=3D20 > (where the bolts go through) were too thick and didn't allow enough > compression of the seal. I found that my vacuum was low and I=3D20 > suspected the base gasket. I cured this by removing and sanding > down the inserts approx. .020". You don't want to take too much off > because the insert prevent warping the carb when it's torqued down. > Tighten the bolts just enough to compress the gasket. Also, check=3D20 > the vacuum tree off the back of the carb, they crack easily. > =3D20 > - Check Float Level; it should be approx. 9/32 [or .281"]. I have=3D20 > mine between .250 & .260 with a high flow needle main valve. > This can be done in the car if you can carefully take the top of the > carb off. Also, with fuel in the bowl you can see if the float > has sunk, [an undesireable condition when the float has failed]. > =3D20 > - Make sure that the choke plate is fully open once engine is=3D20 > warmed up. My carb was excessively wet with fuel around the choke > plate when it failed to open all the way and ran rich [of course]. > I was amazed how much fuel ran UP the back wall of the primaries! > =3D20 > Hope this helps... > PeteJD > [69 400/400] > =3D20 > >=3D20 > = ........................................................................=3D= > > After the rebuild of the carb that used to leak air like crazy =3D with=3D20 > the > > deluxe kit from ames( carb shop) i noticed a immediate increase = in=3D20 > power but > > i smell gas and i see a leak right under the non stock chrome = air=3D20 > cleaner i > > know its not original as mine is a 67 400 should be louvered. = Is=3D20 > this a carb > > problem or a air cleaner problem? should that much gas be around the > =3D20 > air > > cleaner anyway? If not what is the most likely problem? is the=3D20 > casting of > > the carb warped? 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(back) Subject: RE: Firebird-L Digest #1714 From: "Brett Luikkonen" <brett@cisdirect.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:01:38 -0600 Assembly Books?? From: "Keith Donmoyer" <kadonny@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:09:04 -0500 John: Those "books" are called the Factory Assembly Manuals. There has been threads on this in the past, and here is what I believe is the current situation on these. Copies of the 1967 and 1968 Assembly manuals have = been "rumored" to be around, although many of us on the list have been looking for them for a couple of years and so far copies have not turned up. 1969 Assembly manuals are readily available in major catalogs like YO, Ames = etc. Maybe this is a good time to recheck the list, but I would not be = optomistic about finding one. The other major reference manual for assembling is the shop manual. This is not nearly the detail that the Assembly manual is, = but it helps a ton. The thing I did was purchase a Camaro (I know.....taboo = but the only option) Assembly manual. It is not exact especially with = interior, trim, etc. but it gives you good info on suspension, major body panels and so on. If anyone has dug up any of the 67 or 68 assembly manuals, please..please let us know. Hope this helps. Keith 68 H.O. Subject: Assabley books???FB From: <Studderin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:41:12 EST I was look for one of these assembly line workers ( sheets ) books If = seen them for other cars and can't find on for a 67 FB. They have all the info the the assembly line works had on building they whole car every bolt, lube, toque spec. Could someone recommend a similar manual. My 67 is almost completely dissemble, and It's not that I'm afraid that I'll forget how to reassembly it, but it was missing a lot of bolts and = had a lot of nut&bolt hardware store stuff,, you know the drill..... It's = not a 100% resto but I was look for a better book than the ( The sub-frame = is removed by 4 bolts....remove them). thanks John Costello I checked ebay and found a few reproductions of Fisher Body Manuals. They cover a lot of the materials that the Assembly manuals have, altough I = don't think they would be as complete, they are better than noting. At about $20 on ebay... Here is the description from one of the auctions. I just searched for "Firebird Manual" and found at least four of these! Hope this helps! - Brett - firstgenbirdman ___________________________________________________________________________= _ ____ 1967 Firebird Fisher Body Service Manual This manual covers the GM product line except Corvette. It measures 8x10 = has about 400 pages including a set of wiring diagrams for each different car make and is divided into 13 sections. They include underbody, convertible top, windshield wiper system, front end, doors, rear quarters, rear end, roof, seats, electrical with diagrams, exterior mouldings and restraint systems. This is the other half of GMs car manuals that completes the full coverage set of books for GM cars. This is a high quality reprint printed with GMs permission and is identical to the original. $19.95. High Bidder = is required to add $5.95 for shiping and handling.
(back) Subject: Re: Alternate Fuel Systems From: "scott" <saltyd@home.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 12:54:41 -0600 James I personally have absolutely no experience with this system but I go to alot of drag races and big car shows. I have asked around and last time = I was at a show they had the holley diesel truck there that had everything. Well I asked the rep there what he thought about pro jection and he said that it was not a good system, in fact he said holley isn't even making it anymore so what ever is out there for sale is it. He said they are coming out with a new system that is working great on some drag cars that have = been testing it. He said with the new system you will be able to go on the net = to holley's website and download new fuel curves and timing advance curves. This new system is gonna be awesome. I believe that it has an air meter, = O2 sensor and control for the distributor. Anyway that is what I was told by the Holley rep. > Alrighty, found this in the Holley catalog. Looks like I can get a > "Pro-Jection" system. Bolts on to stock and aftermarket carb intakes. > Comes with a pump and all the control circuits/computer that it needs. > Sounds like a great system for those of us looking for better = reliability in > our daily drivers. At about $700 it seems worth it to me... Anyone = hear > anything else about it? I'm lookin at getting the 900cfm 4 barrel rated for > motors producing 350-500 HP... > -- > James Larson, ETN2 USN > Saratoga Springs, NY > 1968 White Firebird 400 Coupe
(back) Subject: Re: Full Tank of Gas -- Pee-yew! From: <F119flight@aol.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:55:10 EST Looks like you probably found your leak. There is a rubber sending unit gasket at the top of the tank as you described. You'll probably need a new = one and a new locking ring by the time you persuade it to come off (tap it = counter clockwise). Replacements are available from Classic Industries for = $2.50 and $2.58 (page 309 in my catalog). You might as well replace the = fuel float filter while you are in there (also on page 309). In a message dated 1/25/01 7:55:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, Jeff_Davis19@excite.com writes: << The filler tube was replaced about a year ago because it would leak = while pumping gas into the tank. That doesn't happen any more so I don't = suspect that part. I'll be sure to look closely at it when the tank is down. = Have not noticed the smell of gas when the trunk is opened. I'll pay closer attention next time. I looked around the tank last night but did not find much to indicate = where the leak comes from. When the tank is closer to empty, I'll feel more comfortable lowering it to get a better look. What I did see is: At the top of the tank in the center appears to be = the gauge sending unit and that area looks a little wet, especially around = where there might be a seal/gasket. The line is pretty well caked over (where = it runs horizontally across the tank, toward the fender) so I suspect that = gas is slowly seeping down the line, evaporating and caking as it goes. Not enough to drip, though. I saw a small puddle a few months ago, but after = a while, I think the tube got so cruddy that it (crud) is absorbing more = of the gas, preventing the drip, and accumulating more crud. Any of you done this before? More to follow. Unless someone says "shaddup, boy". >>